Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
Yeah because New Zealand losing out on talent has held them back so much. The point isn't restricted to England though, it's almost all tier one nations who have picked from the Pacific Islanders without giving too much back. Although England are the rugby nation with the most resources before going down this route if that matters at all.
Of course you have a point, but I didn’t think that was the nature of the post I was replying to.

We can’t sit here and knock England for what we do, almost as stupid as the anti England songs we sing at the city with how many English players and staff?

Anyway, I agree it’s not right. They are basically taking them from a school age now and you’d bet given the choice they’d rather play for their own nation but they get a better upbringing in NZ with school and work for their family..