Not many English 'settlers' living in Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen, which voted 60% to leave.
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I know it's a politics thread but it's more likely to have a bit of a life here before it gets moved
It always did seem strange to me that Wales voted out, new research might explain why
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rexit-research
Not many English 'settlers' living in Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen, which voted 60% to leave.
Apparently, some parts of Wales are more 'genuinely Welsh' than others.
I think it’s probably got more to do with the fact that we have a high proportion of uneducated people in Wales, who are unfortunately eligible to vote.
Broadly agree with you but you'd be surprised. I grew up in a pretty much rural area of Blaenau Gwent with the street I lived on leading into Powys. Both of my parents neighbours there now are English retirees, moved to the area because they got more bang for their buck than moving a few minutes up the road to say Crickhowell. They go on multiple holidays a year and live pretty much in the Brecon Beacons.
Don't know how they voted tbf but one of the households would have most definitely voted for Brexit.
And Scottish ....... Freedom.......
I'd like to see this broken down by towns , as I thought the majority of English folk live and like the more rural posher bordrer areas of Wales , and I suspect a lot of Brexit votes were from old Labour heartlands valley communities .
Isn't that why Farage is targeting Wales??
as he suspects theres more Labour Welsh Voters to be had than the small percentage of English retirees.
It's the Guardian, so it's just more remain bollocks!
Are you suggesting that uneducated shouldn't be allowed to vote? some may think if you applied that across the board there would never be another labour government.
And what criteria would you use to determine what you consider is a proportionate level of education?
It's just too silly
I didn't. I also didn't vote for medicine shortages, people to lose their jobs, livelihoods, security and freedoms. Sadly, I'm seeing rising numbers of Brexiters who are happy for suffering so long as we leave. The argument was that we'd be better off out of the EU, to we'll be ok, to we don't know but we might be alright, to a bit of suffering won't hurt anyone as we survived the war, to not giving a shit if people are affected.
Whatever your opinions on Brexit, to happily accept suffering by others is utterly despicable.
But do we know there will be medicine shortages.
As I pointed out in the Operation Yellowhammer thread taking insulin as an example there shouldn't be given the long storage life and a bit of foresight.
Mind you you sneered at my knowledge then and never acknowledge my response so I am not holding my breath for a reply!
Oh and as I said on that thread I voted Remain as well
I would love to know the average earnings of the Brexit voters V Remain. It seems to me that the people who haven't got a pot to piddle in predominately voted out.
Ok, I'll rephrase.
There are Brexiters who couldn't care less about the possibility of others losing jobs, their livelihoods etc. You cannot be 100% sure that everything will be absolutely fine from the moment we leave, so you are prepared to run the risk of people being worse off etc.
But how can anyone be totally sure that all the doom is going to happen. The way some people have gone into meltdown just when the word Brexit is mentioned is odd. Do they think there wasn't any Job loses, drug/ food/ fuel shortages, queues at Calais, housing price crashes, recessions, riots etc etc before June 2016?