Mike this needs to be moved to the attack dog politics forum
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Mike this needs to be moved to the attack dog politics forum
The case of you being a Tory now. You say that you won't vote for them yet all you ever do is praise them, defend them, and slag off Labour.
Can I shed some light on their success? Of course.
The Labour Party haven't had a proper leader (I'm categorically not saying that he was a good leader) since Tony Blair. Brown was weak, the wrong Milliband was weak and Corbyn is far too divisive to be a party leader.
Put pre-Iraq Blair in charge now and it would be a completely different situation.
Anyone who believes anything in that manifesto or anyone who has enough time to waste to read it needs help. Just start thinking for yourself and by the time you get to pension age you will begin to realise that nearly everything you are told, or have been told, is a lie.
Last edited by jackrabbit; 30-10-19 at 22:25. Reason: Private
How can anybody out of his/her teens contemplate voting Labour, with this disgraceful charlatan in charge? Unthinkable.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1189442297366233088
The sooner it is reflective of the decency of people like Steve Baker the better. It would then be worth voting for again.
For you to state that then you must also believe Thatcher and Major were spiffing too because Blair (nor Brown) during 13 years reversed any of the reforms they introduced from 1979 to 1997, a great many of which the Labour Party complained endlessly about. The red and blue teams play the good cop/bad cop routine while carrying an identical torch in the same direction. It's not difficult to see.
Away from the tit for tat playground reply , you vote for them na na na na stuff .
I am asking you an basic political question , a subject matter you clearly enjoy , why have the Tories have been so successful in wining so many elections and running our country for so long ,surely a fella with so many other opinions ,has a view on this ??,
I hated Thatcher , couldn't make Major out other than him being the pasty to get rid of Thatcher and some new nice face of the Tories as that era was ending .
I suppose the main reason why I liked Blair , was because for the very first time in my lifetime someone gave the Tories a bloody good bashing , not once but twice ,and that is my honest answer .
Yes to do it he had to tear up some of the old traditional Labour values as they were un - electable with them ,which i'm guessing is why the current leadership , are so bitter about current centralist type Labour MP' s .
You do realise that you've edited out my answer to your question in the post that you've just quoted, right? You have even responded to it previously saying that you liked Blair If you've genuinely not noticed that you've done it, that's a bit worrying.
I'll post it again now and make the words bigger (like you've just done) so you don't miss it this time.
Oh, I can explain that. At a general election every adult gets the chance to vote. Surprisingly, many people don't share the same views as a group of 10 or so individuals who haunt a football message board in south Wales.
Whoever's in charge come December, I hope they take better care of our hard earned taxes :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...2-000-day.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/102318...cash-marbella/
Labour are about to get smashed out of sight. We are going to have a minimum 5 years of a Boris Johnson government. A nightmare thought.
Labour have done this to themselves and it dates back to electing the wrong Milliband brother.
Labour need to win the marginals and they are not doing that with the likes of Corbyn and Dianne Abbott at the front.
They may even lose numbers of safe seats which will be some achievement.
Unfortunately you’re right. Any decent opposition party should be polling so much higher against the basket case of a PM and Conservative party but the Labour Party is a split as the Conservative’s are. Clearly Corbyn is unelectable to the wider population and doesn’t fit with a large proportion of labour MPs, however he’s loved by the grass roots members. Unfortunately that won’t get him or the Labour Party into power and will hand control to the Tories for 5 years, oh joy!