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To be fair its awful , and you can see the bitterness on this board .
For the first time in my life after (only) ever voting Labour in a GE I truly dont know what to do, and admit its upsetting .
I was Liberal bound until they bodly said
' revoke article 50' which does worry me as a statement (it is bold though perhaps un democratic though ?? )
I'm no longer as strong on remain as I was in 2016.
I won't waste my vote, sadly I cannot align myself to the current Labour project , I'm not a nationalist so no too Plaid, dont fully buy into the Greens , I may have to suck in the Lib's .
I do wonder if I'm alone in this thought ??
How some people don't like gratis and are constantly looking a gift horse in the face is insane to me. These rich capitalists must be the bee's knees in excercising mind control.
C'mon Dorcy surely you see a just little joke, I'll find a Boris meme after dinner to show impartiality.
I think some are worried about the freebies effecting everyone's pensions , as a lot of these nationalization plans will effect ordinary folks pensions as the pension funds are invested in these very companies , therefore to gratis effect nice a the start could hurt ordinary working folks pensions in the future , my guess (and it is a guess ) a lot of the supporters of the gratis labour plans are retired or near retired public sector workers who are insulated as their pension and earning are protected from this potential financial shortfall and effects of the brave new nationalization plan , this is a huge gamble to untie all of this and it will cost ,I was listen to old Unite Len praising this new venture ,well he would wouldn't , he it wont effect his £250k pa or any of those folk around the Labour manifesto gratis held meeting yesterday .
And shock of shocks old Len was the first out of the media blocks its as if he was the leader , and he as an union leader attended that manifesto meeting ??
I say never mind free fibre broadband, what about fibre broadband full stop! Lots of places in Wales would love to have it. I'm sure those inhabitants would be happy to pay for it.
Talking about pensions LOM, are you in the lumper payout and retirement at 60 brigade? I've missed out on that one 😬 as has my Doris, but it's not a race to the bottom so best wishes to those in the club 👍 bitter me? I was yesterday morning walking my Doris to work, Facking tories 😬😬😬😬😬Originally Posted by life on mars;502k2308
A good opinion piece (in my opinion) about this from Ash Sarkar (normally demonised by The Guardian, but this time given space):
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...m-founding-nhs
He 'stuffed their mouths with gold', i'm a massive fan of the NHS and those of us that can afford it should pay a lot more taxation to improve it and keep it going but nonetheless doctors and surgeons do still seem to be paid too much, we should all be in it together.
Glad you like it. I see they've been caught killing kids at the maternity dept in Telford over decades. Not the first such scandal is it ?
Fact is that it's a big **** up and third world compared to US healthcare but we keep hearing how great it is from the BBC and politicians and somehow a lot of people fall for it
If anyone is interested in how and why the policy was adopted:
yes i think we need a broader look at the NHS rather than use it a a political point scoring vehicle , for me we should impose :
GP consultations fee's for those than can afford it .
freeze GP's pay and to pay for more nurses and raise their pay and skills
Broaden nurses ability to provide simple care currently carried out by GP's
Not prescribe drugs that are at the point of purchase.
Charge for prescriptions for those than can afford in in wales ,channel to social care
Group GP's within A and E
Charges taken at then point of entry at A and E for drunks and drug offenders .
Link fire services units and personal with paramedics fro call outs .
Charges raised for motorists proving careless driver that results in medical help
1p on income tax and ring fenced purely for social care
I think John McDonnell is an interesting guy not many old Socialists left these days.