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How can such a good squad on player look so poor?
If they go down, best squad to get relegated from the championship?
I agree I was amazed by how poor they were given the number of 'names' in their squad. I think part of the problem is the cohesion of the players and the fact that they all seem a bit one paced. Hogan, Gregory, Vokes are forwards you would think would be decent at this level but none are exactly blessed with pace and maybe are a bit too similar? Same goes for the midfield, tidy footballers, but not much drive in them? I don't think they will go down but if they do it won't be much of a shock
I agree with you about Stoke's lack of pace. We defended so much better than we did on Saturday and, despite being at home and therefore you would think more open to a counter attack, we did not allow midfield runners to get the wrong side of us, but, as I asked in my blog piece, was our win down to better performances from our defence and midfield (in defensive terms at least) or the fact that we won't face many slower attacks than Stoke's?Originally Posted by Bothroyd's Diving Coach
Loved Bennetts tussles with Ince. They were having a right go at each which was good to see. Don't really like Ince, just seems so arrogant in thinking he should be at somewhere like Liverpool. But in a side with the others mentioned you do wonder how they are so far down.
Ince is a legend in his own mind.
And Daddys.
That comment reminded me of an Irish lecturer/part-time artist I met recently. Regarding sales of his artistic creations he told me that he has the greatest collection of his paintings.....
Sauce !
Can anybody think of a more over-rated player than Tom Ince?
The ultimate show-pony.
And other show-ponies? Lawrence? Grealish? Alli? Jonny Williams?
who the **** rates tom inceCan anybody think of a more over-rated player than Tom Ince?
The ultimate show-pony.
And other show-ponies? Lawrence? Grealish? Alli? Jonny Williams?
Who do you think ruined his career his father or himself.I did think he had a massive future in front of him.
Regarding how poor Stoke were is Joe Allen getting a pass because he's our anchor midfielder for Wales?
The way he flapped his legs about chasing Tomlin and the thought he could be playing against Hazard next summer gave me kittens.
If not for his father Tom would not be a professional footballer.
Plenty as good as him on the parks
They don't like Sam Vokes
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/...64/vokes-again
£9m wasted as far as they are concerned
Cant believe the bookies got it so wrong at the start of the season. Stoke were about 4th favourites for promotion but most could see the squad and club were no where near ready to challenge.
Not the bookies getting it wrong. There was obviously lots of money put on them by fools who looked at their players.
I hadn't seen Joe Allen play for ages until he played for Wales against Hungary, and like most people afterwards, I could not understand how he is STILL playing for Stoke, and not a more successful team.
Do they drag him down to their level, as he is still a decent player and they have a team will plenty of talent - I was surprised at quite how poor they were and how little impact the new manger seems to have had.
Good. Would love to see them back in League 1.I hadn't seen Joe Allen play for ages until he played for Wales against Hungary, and like most people afterwards, I could not understand how he is STILL playing for Stoke, and not a more successful team.
Do they drag him down to their level, as he is still a decent player and they have a team will plenty of talent - I was surprised at quite how poor they were and how little impact the new manger seems to have had.
The amount of sideways and backwards passes he and Woods played when they were chasing the game was criminal.
Ba’ath, their centre half was one of the top passers, by no of passes in the division midweek.
Not surprising.
Unbalanced midfield. Both very good players, but you need someone alongside them who will make things happen, can’t play triangles all game.
No pace or threat out wide or up front either, despite the expensive strikers they have.
Makes our squad look a bit less of an expensive bunch of misfits.
They seem a bit of an ‘old’ side too, with a few there past their best
He did win his first 2 games ( O’Neill)I hadn't seen Joe Allen play for ages until he played for Wales against Hungary, and like most people afterwards, I could not understand how he is STILL playing for Stoke, and not a more successful team.
Do they drag him down to their level, as he is still a decent player and they have a team will plenty of talent - I was surprised at quite how poor they were and how little impact the new manger seems to have had.
95 min winner v wigan at home was a bit of fortune
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