Reply With QuoteWhat about Catholics, Christians, Mormons and Atheists, are they a race too?Originally Posted by rudy gestede
Islam is a race though same as Jewish people are a race. Is there anything you won’t be wrong about?
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A couple of questions;
1. Would you have gone to the Leeds game if it was going ahead? For myself, I was edging towards deciding not to in the hours before the decision to call it off was made, but hadn't decided for sure - although the forum I use says atrial fibrillation is not a condition which makes you more susceptible to Covid 19, some of its complications can be and, at 64, I cannot really put myself in the position that some are doing in this thread of saying for sure that they will get over it.
2. This one is only for the naysayers on here who have been telling most of us we're being duped and it's all just a ploy - will you self isolate if you develop a fever or a persistent cough?
What about Catholics, Christians, Mormons and Atheists, are they a race too?Islam is a race though same as Jewish people are a race. Is there anything you won’t be wrong about?
Currently experts expect over 1 million deaths in the U.S. since the virus was not contained & we cannot even test for it.
— Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) March 13, 2020
This will be recorded as a major preventable public health disaster. I will try to relate what I learned from a long day of calls about what is happening.
I don’t know what’s funnier remembering a post something from that long ago or being so rattled you have to bring it up
Find me the post please, not that I disagree with it, I just can’t find it and I just want to know how long I’ve been living in your head rent free.
In fairness this is a good point, shows everything isn’t black and white
Still stand by my point thoughand I think you could make the argument for other religions.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...phobia-muslims
Sayeeda Warsi:
I’m astonished that, after decades of research and policies that improved our understanding on race, anyone still believes racism is only about the shade of one’s skin. It is not. Antisemitism is a form of racism – directed at Jews who come in many shades, black, brown and white. Racism is a demonisation and negative stereotyping of a group or perceived group, irrespective of the colour of their face.
The same is true for Muslims or those perceived to be Muslim. It’s why the All-Party Parliamentary Group on British Muslims, after wide consultation and evidence gathering, defined Islamophobia in 2018 as a “form of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness”.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ritish-society
Omar Khan:
Racism isn’t much understood in Britain in 2020. Exhibit A is Trevor Phillips suggesting that because “Muslims are not a race”, there is no such thing as anti-Muslim racism.
Phillips has been suspended from the Labour party for alleged Islamophobia, but his line of thinking is common. Many have tried over the decades to explain why it isn’t right, and not just when it comes to Islamophobia. Of course Muslims are not a “race”, but they have been racialised. This means people who are Muslim are treated by particular societies as having essential characteristics that mark them as wholly different.
The question is whether there is a set of attitudes and behaviours – racism – that is socially widespread and used to justify discrimination against a particular group. If we look at the history of racism itself, we see that it didn’t emerge through scientific investigations or empirically rigorous endeavours, but instead to provide a justification for the economic, political and social domination and exclusion of particular groups. This is why it makes sense to call antisemitism and Islamophobia forms of racism.
Could you move your bullshit race argument to another thread or perhaps another planet?
I've been offered tickets for almost every home game this season and every single one since the start of November. Indeed, I've been offered as many as three or four tickets for some matches. However, before the game was postponed, nobody had offered me a ticket for Leeds, which suggests that everybody I know who has a season ticket was intending to go. I'd have certainly gone if I'd had a ticket.
On the flip side, a friend in work has been looking for two tickets for the Wales v Scotland rugby game for several weeks as a relative from the USA is visiting and wanted to go. Try as she might, she couldn't get tickets until a couple of days ago, when plenty suddenly became available. Luckily for her, she held off buying any due to the rapidly escalating nature of the situation.
Hear, hear!
I was planning to attend the Leeds game but was going to switch from Public Transport to Driving as there is probably more risk getting to and from the game than being sat or standing outside for a few hours.
Regarding the second, I can work from home so self isolating isn't a problem. Any meetings can be held by video conference. I know this isn't a solution for everyone but at least it means those who can't self isolate will come into contact with less people who do.
Are things getting back to normal in most of China now? No new cases of it so I imagine people will be going back to work, if they stopped?
1) No. I'm freelance, haven't worked for a while and have just spent a lot of our savings on a car () and if we get stood down at work I won't get sick pay and I don't know when my next paycheck would come so my feeling was even if going gives me a 1% chance of getting it it would be sensible not to go. It's only a football match.
2) Not a naysayer but not self isolating in those circumstances would be incredibly arrogant and selfish
I saw it reported that there were only eight new cases recorded in China yesterday (other sources have said there were eleven) - have you seen something to say there were none today? Also, I notice that Apple have announced that they are closing all of their shops outside China - that could well be because the ones in China were closed already, but if it doesn't, then that's a sign of an improving picture there.
THis is great from China
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/st...415064576?s=21
I’m sure I heard or read it somewhere, so much info coming out it’s confusing to know where it came from. I’m sure rock-flock can update us, as he’s living there! Disneyland is open there I believe......
I have just started to hear about people I know who have tested positive - including our new MP and her partner. As I'm due to be house sitting my 88 year old mam and 84 year old auntie all next week we are avoiding a few gatherings this weekend and pretty much staying away from other people. That was a change of outlook that came very very quickly. This time yesterday I was planning to spend this evening at someone's 60th birthday in a city centre pub.
If true it is great news.
I have driven back from Leistershire this morning, motorways are a bit quiet, plenty of traffic, but volume not what i usually encounter on the M6/M42/M5, maybe a good time for the highways to sort roadworks planned for the coming months ahead. quiet going up on Thursday but expected as I didn't leave until 19.00.
Was Penarth Wetherspooning by 9am this morning. Lots of glum looking faces on view. Yet to see anyone not on the telly wearing a mask.
I was in the city centre yesterday lunchtime. Lots of people wearing masks.
It’s always glum in there around that time as the “drinkers” have only just got started.
To be fair Dave they’d need ‘em crisis or no crisis.
Bit tricky to manage a day in Wetherspoons whilst wearing mask to be fair.
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