Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
Oh please, Sludge is always making excuses. You only have to look at the Penygraig thread. Painting out the girl to be the victim with barely a mention of the actual victims.

This whole argument has started because I have said they need to take some personal responibility we cant keep making excuses for their behaviour. They have to be accountable.

If I went and tried to an armed robbery on a post office to get cash to pay for my gambling debts would I be afforded the same sympathy for my addiction / illness? No of course I wouldnt, and nor would I expect it either.
I agree with you that people need to take responsibility for their actions, although to do that, don't they need to be a bit stronger mentally? That's where the support comes in, a way of helping people to take responsibility for their actions and more importantly, not to repeat them.