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The lowest R number in the country with the most deaths per capita from this virus in the world.Originally Posted by goats
Remember when the tories produced their scoring system, there were recommendations about what the score should be be before things started opening up - England may have abandoned that system pretty much immediately for political reasons (it seems). But Wales seems to be more in line with that.
He's proud of his Government's record, you are here leaping to his defence. UK stand top of the league in deaths per million, you may think it's because our figures are more accurate, I happen to think it has plenty to do with sick old people being sent into care homes on the advice of our "Proud" (their word, not mine) Government.
In some places in England, especially coastal regions like Blackpool and down in the South West, the R rate was around 1 a few days ago. So, Wales is at 0.7 (midpoint) which is fairly close to the 0.65 rate that Germany were reporting at the time of their lockdown easing.
My focus is on Wales and today 77 more cases, with Cardiff, RCT and N Wales featuring. I do not understand the logic of our 5 mile travel limit as it pushes the population of the hot spots together, thus increasing the likelihood of catching the virus. And our First Minister cannot justify this stance with any scientific evidence.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-health-crisis
R number risen above 1 in parts of England – Sage
The reproduction number, or R, of coronavirus across the UK remains between 0.7 and 0.9, while across England it is 0.8-1.0, according to the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies.
Sage also published regional values for R in England for the first time, with the South West having the highest range at 0.8-1.1.
The East of England is at 0.7 - 0.9, London, the Midlands, the North West and the South East at 0.8 - 1.0, and the North East and Yorkshire at 0.7 - 1.0.
But experts cautioned against the use of regional R values - the average number of people an infected to pass the disease on to - saying that as the number of infections falls, regional R values become less reliable.
Instead, from next week the government will publish the growth rates for regions that are based on data and make fewer assumptions.
I though it was Belgium with that unenviable distinction?
I've heard him state that he is live in the Commons, last week or the week before I think it was (time feels seriously blurred at the moment).
Semantics. True he's said he's proud of the Govt's response to the pandemic, but I think the OP was phrasing it to suggest he was proud of 40,000 deaths..
They're linked, no matter how some try to deny it.
It is semantics. Of course, Johnson could never come out and publicly state that he's proud of a tally of 40,000+ deaths, but by stating he's proud of his government's response to the pandemic which has resulted in the highest death toll in Europe, he's effectively saying the same thing. To be honest, I initially thought he was taking the piss when he talking in the Commons the other week, but I guess that's just where we're at as a nation right now.
Is this true? If you are under 20 years old you have more chance of being killed by lightening than coronavirus?
pointless post as there is clearly nobody under 20 on this board. I'd guess the average age was 62
Even armed with that information, I would suggest that many people under the age of 20 take suitable precautions during an electrical storm.
I think the rate in Scotland was at 0.7. So it does appear that a gradual transition from lockdown is having a better impact on infection rates than the UK Government.
So he is proud of a response that has led to 40,000 deaths? Implies that he was also proud of the response that resulted in covid patients being transferred to care homes.
Here is one story of the impact those decisions made.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...re-home-victim
https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-c...care-workforce
This is the Question Keir Starmer led with on June 3rd. A little provocative, but nothing below the beltWhen adjusted for age and sex, social care workers are more than twice as likely to die from COVID-19 compared to the general population. In contrast, staff working in the health care sector do not appear to have a statistically significant raised risk of death compared to the general population.
This morning, The Daily Telegraph is reporting that the Prime Minister has decided to take “direct control” of the Government’s response to the virus, so there is an obvious question for the Prime Minister: who has been in direct control up till now?
And, Johnson's response
On the right hon. and learned Gentleman’s more polemical point, let me just say that I take full responsibility for everything that this Government have been doing in tackling coronavirus, and I am very proud of our record. If you look at what we have achieved so far, it is very considerable. We have protected the NHS. We have driven down the death rate. We are now seeing far fewer hospital admissions. I believe that the public understand that, with good British common sense, we will continue to defeat this virus and take this country forward, and what I think the country would like to hear from him is more signs of co-operation in that endeavour.
Yes, I agree about the five mile limit - I tend to be a bit more supportive of the Welsh Government than some on here and I'm with them when it comes to a cautious approach to easing lockdown, but the five mile limit just seems odd to me.
News this morning that a wholesale meat market in Beijing in lockdown after a spike in cases. It seems two men who work at a local meat research centre had been at the market. Quite where they caught it is not known, but one suspects the ' meat research centre'...whatever that is!
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/strat...re-foundation/
The lightning statistic is shocking.
Belgium are counting all care home deaths in their official statistics whether there is evidence of covid or not, nobody else is counting it like this.
Ona like for like basis are very likely to be worse than Belgium (and the worst in the world)
https://twitter.com/Simon_Nixon/stat...665066497?s=20
Our Tory government, ladies and gentlemen.
Twitter.
A tweet linked to an article written by the well known anti government, anti Tory rag the Daily Mail.
Indeed. You know when there's been a serious cock-up by the government when the Mail reports it.
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