Is this a leftie board?

[RonnieBird]

Well since socialism is just a method by which people exploit jealousy and resentment, it's not surprising that the most committed socialists are quite nasty people. Nor is it surprising that they have a lot to say, despite usually being quite bad at saying it.

Really, socialism is all about moaning and negativity, and those who are attracted to it will continue to moan whatever happens because they don't do anything to help themselves and so they'll always be unhappy and thus keep moaning about it.

I think it's more common here than it is in general society or amongst Cardiff City fans generally, but it's certainly depressing and if we consider the collective mindset of fans as it effects something like a football team, then it's certainly destructive to the positive attitude of that club. Fortunately it doesn't infect the playing staff or management structure, but it's there in the background.

We've got a guy running a blog about the club who's got such a negative "know your place" outlook that it's definitely a stone around the neck of the club, and this seems to come from a leftist view of life.

Personally I'm more concerned about a few worrying anti Semites who post here. I'm sure they're not representative , but some of the stuff they come out with is quite shocking, and as far as I can see they're all also leftists.

[Rjk]

Well since socialism is just a method by which people exploit jealousy and resentment, it's not surprising that the most committed socialists are quite nasty people. Nor is it surprising that they have a lot to say, despite usually being quite bad at saying it.

Really, socialism is all about moaning and negativity, and those who are attracted to it will continue to moan whatever happens because they don't do anything to help themselves and so they'll always be unhappy and thus keep moaning about it.

I think it's more common here than it is in general society or amongst Cardiff City fans generally, but it's certainly depressing and if we consider the collective mindset of fans as it effects something like a football team, then it's certainly destructive to the positive attitude of that club. Fortunately it doesn't infect the playing staff or management structure, but it's there in the background.

We've got a guy running a blog about the club who's got such a negative "know your place" outlook that it's definitely a stone around the neck of the club, and this seems to come from a leftist view of life.

Personally I'm more concerned about a few worrying anti Semites who post here. I'm sure they're not representative , but some of the stuff they come out with is quite shocking, and as far as I can see they're all also leftists.

What a load of nonsense.
You really haven't understood socialism or what socialists want at all have you?
In my experience (and most people's I would imagine) committed socialists display a lot more care an empathy than those who are heavily committed to capitalism and the free market.
I like the mario kart analogy to socialism, those at the back get more help.
In much of the world today we see the exact opposite, to quote Edgar Bronfman

To turn $100 into $110 is work. To turn 100 million into $110 million is inevitable.

And to expand on that, to turn $100 to $1 million is practically impossible.

Also the only antisemitism I've ever seen on here has come from people who are definitely not left wing.

[RonnieBird]

What a load of nonsense.
You really haven't understood socialism or what socialists want at all have you?
In my experience (and most people's I would imagine) committed socialists display a lot more care an empathy than those who are heavily committed to capitalism and the free market.
I like the mario kart analogy to socialism, those at the back get more help.
In much of the world today we see the exact opposite, to quote Edgar Bronfman



And to expand on that, to turn $100 to $1 million is practically impossible.

Also the only antisemitism I've ever seen on here has come from people who are definitely not left wing.

Yeah I think I understand what socialism is and its 100% record of increasing rather than decreasing people's wealth health and Liberty.
It's all very well quoting theorists about something which hasn't been tried yet, but socialism has been tried in various places for well over a century, and it's left millions dead in its wake without improving anything.

I don't think it matters all that much at the point because it's now been pretty much universally rejected and there's no danger of another labour government for as long into the future as we can imagine.

I don't want to start up the whole anti semitism thing here again, but my experience is that leftist posters are the ones who've defended or condoned it.

[Rjk]

Yeah I think I understand what socialism is and its 100% record of increasing rather than decreasing people's wealth health and Liberty.
It's all very well quoting theorists about something which hasn't been tried yet, but socialism has been tried in various places for well over a century, and it's left millions dead in its wake without improving anything.

I don't think it matters all that much at the point because it's now been pretty much universally rejected and there's no danger of another labour government for as long into the future as we can imagine.

I don't want to start up the whole anti semitism thing here again, but my experience is that leftist posters are the ones who've defended or condoned it.

do you.mean communism?

[RonnieBird]

do you.mean communism?

No, I meant what I said . There's no actual difference between the two and most communist regimes have called themselves "socialist" haven't they ?

The variety of names they use is because they want to dissociate themselves from the last major **** up of a country under their whacky philosophy. In fact though it's all the same thing, and people have generally caught on to that fact by this point in time.

[Mrs Steve R]

No, I meant what I said . There's no actual difference between the two and most communist regimes have called themselves "socialist" haven't they ?

The variety of names they use is because they want to dissociate themselves from the last major **** up of a country under their whacky philosophy. In fact though it's all the same thing, and people have generally caught on to that fact by this point in time.

I was all for it until I realized what I was doing.