What amazes me with people like Sludge (and there are others) is how one dimensional their thinking is. They simply can't accept that Labour can do anything wrong. Instead people on here are treated like something on the bottom of their shoe and you only have to vote Tory a few times and you are Tory scum. For the record Labour's report on the election defeat was clear but some just simply can't accept why people voted Tory even though the Labour hierarchy seemed to. The reasons were:
1. The unpopularity of Corbyn
2. Confused Brexit policy (so elected the architect as their new Leader)
3.Unrealistic manifesto and:
4.Disorganised national campaign.
Here's the link from the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...lection-defeat
Of course Sludge and some others ignore all this and revert to statements such as how could the electorate vote Tory and it's the electorate's fault. He dismisses people who voted Tory and keeps saying the BBC's political editor is a Tory. I didn't realise that especially as Kuensberg required a bodyguard at the 2017 Tory conference for her perceived anti Tory views. She did criticise Corbyn but was not alone and was even defended by Yvette Cooper.
The evidence is clear from the Labour Party itself. So let's stop the name calling and just let people vote how they vote without criticising individuals for their decisions.
I could vote Labour again but will have to see how things will pan out over the next 4 years. Starmer's made a good start even though I thought he was a bad choice.
Like some other Tory voters on here I am not locked into one political party but vote for a party on their policies. As for the last election I simply could not vote for any party led by Corbyn, Abbot and McDonald with Momentum lurking in the background.