http://european-football-statistics....eague/carc.htm
Theres quite a big drop from Malkys season in the Premier League to the Russel Slade seasons.
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Theres quite a big drop from Malkys season in the Premier League to the Russel Slade seasons.
Yes, it is a fair old drop, but the first season post relegation was awful in terms of entertainment and style of play and I'd say people were put off by the signal the Slade appointment sent out. For long stretches of this season it felt like 14/15 again and I think we would have seen a significant drop in season ticket sales if they'd gone on sale at the usual time in a non Covid world.
if you look at decades, our best 4 have clearly been 20s, 50s, 2000- 2010 and 2010-2020
The worst by far the 80s and 90s
Which of course follows the clubs success quite closely.
If we spent a few seasons in the bottom leagues I think our attendances would be a little more resiliant than in the past, as we have 2 decades of relative success *in a row*, but they would still drop more than someone who has been at the top for most of the time like newcastle etc.
http://european-football-statistics....eague/wolw.htm
It had just over doubled by that 1987/88 promotion season. The attendance when we won 4-1 there was 10,077.
I think it's also worth noting how crowds slumped pretty much across the board in the 1980s as well.
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http://european-football-statistics....eague/wolw.htm
1986 and 87.
That’s surprised me too.
Last time we were in Premier League our average attendance of 31500 was the 11th highest just below Leicester, above Wolves,Southampton,Brighton,and way above Palace,Burnley etc. If we were an established Premier League club we would average 40k and if a top 6 side 60k. We have the potential to be a really big club but we need to establish ourselves in the Premier League to achieve that standard!
Yeovil and Exeter City are lower league clubs and probably always will be
They are also clubs with small populations
Cardiff is a big urban area with a large catchment area.
Since 2003 we have been a championship club , have been to the fa Cup final , the league Cup final and had two promotions to the top flight
Yet people in their thousands walk around like idiots in their Liverpool tops
Complete waste of space
if they are South Wales based then either support County, bluebirds , Swansea or one of the Welsh league sides
If you live in South Wales and are from Liverpool or Manchester or Leeds or Exeter, fine
If you are not get behind south wales teams .......or **** off
South Wales is one of the worst areas in the country for plastics
You can sort of understand someone from Taunton or Gloucester being a big time Charlie but with cardifff and Swansea here there is no excuse
Swansea fans who travel from west Wales to watch the jacks , football fans
Some idiot from pontypridd walking round in a Liverpool top ? Complete arse
I can remember dreaming about "getting back where we belong" (old Division 2) and thinking we could get crowds of 15,000.
How on earth can you possibly know that? Bus loads? Maybe they just can't get the train because the train system is ****ing terrible. You love to talk in the biggest sweeping generalisations about every place in the UK as if you're some sort of CCMB UK Culture ambassador?
Plastics exist everywhere.
You're bleeting on about every team under the sun having better support but the facts are a lot of clubs even if it was 50 years ago have won a trophy to generate even that extra 5-10% support. IF we had won the FA Cup or League Cup, our attendances would've gone up and probably retained some of them in the rush for european tickets.
Sludge mate, we rightly or wrongly play second fiddle to another sport which a lot of these cities just simply do not. We also have to accept that we have an awful history, so anyone who is not automatically a Cardiff fan, would probably not be that inclined to come down and check us out as they'd hear about the negative things that used to surround the club - despite the club doing a fantastic job of improving the image.
If cardiff blues , the ospreys etc were getting gates of 20000 on a regular basis your view that we play second fiddle to rugby might hold some water, but they don't
Support for the international rugby side is for 4 or 5 games a season
South Wales sports fans are big occasion supporters and within that are loads of premiership football fans
Who live on the doorstep of Cardiff city and don't bother
There's feck all to do in Nottingham, especially compared to Cardiff
The only reason Forest maintain the crowds they have is their previous success, something we don't really have, the same goes for many clubs such as Derby and Wolves, with the obvious example being Leeds