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  1. #4951

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    The vaccine is nearly ready. Front line NHS staff will get their vaccine in early December providing they have had their flu jab. Two doses 28 days apart will be required. Hopefully this will prove to be the game changer, when rolled out, we have been waiting for. I would prefer the politicians to go first as guinea pigs but you can't have everything.
    Where did you get this from?

  2. #4952

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    The vaccine is nearly ready. Front line NHS staff will get their vaccine in early December providing they have had their flu jab. Two doses 28 days apart will be required. Hopefully this will prove to be the game changer, when rolled out, we have been waiting for. I would prefer the politicians to go first as guinea pigs but you can't have everything.
    Amen to that. I’ve heard this too.....

  3. #4953

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Where did you get this from?
    Daily Mail. Sorry it's not the Guardian or Daily Mirror. Link here:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...S-workers.html

  4. #4954

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Daily Mail. Sorry it's not the Guardian or Daily Mirror. Link here:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...S-workers.html
    While I hope im wrong that article doesnt make me think they will be vaccinating in December.

  5. #4955

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    While I hope im wrong that article doesnt make me think they will be vaccinating in December.
    I didn't say they will be vaccinating everyone in December. I even indicated it will only be a game changer when rolled out but I expected those on here to either ignore potentially good news or find a way of dissing it. Here's an article from the Mirror which may make it more believable even though it doesn't say anything more than the Mail article posted earlier.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...t-nhs-22901794

    I see Vaughan Gethin got a hammering on Marr this morning for the Welsh government's confusing messaging on its firebreak. Sound familiar?

  6. #4956

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    I didn't say they will be vaccinating everyone in December. I even indicated it will only be a game changer when rolled out but I expected those on here to either ignore potentially good news or find a way of dissing it. Here's an article from the Mirror which may make it more believable even though it doesn't say anything more than the Mail article posted earlier.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...t-nhs-22901794

    I see Vaughan Gethin got a hammering on Marr this morning for the Welsh government's confusing messaging on its firebreak. Sound familiar?
    I know you didnt say they would be vaccinating everyone.

    I hope you are right and im wrong.

  7. #4957

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    I didn't say they will be vaccinating everyone in December. I even indicated it will only be a game changer when rolled out but I expected those on here to either ignore potentially good news or find a way of dissing it. Here's an article from the Mirror which may make it more believable even though it doesn't say anything more than the Mail article posted earlier.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...t-nhs-22901794

    I see Vaughan Gethin got a hammering on Marr this morning for the Welsh government's confusing messaging on its firebreak. Sound familiar?
    Good, the power is going to their heads. People who most people hadn’t even heard of a year ago, and in another year hopefully never again....

  8. #4958

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    I didn't say they will be vaccinating everyone in December. I even indicated it will only be a game changer when rolled out but I expected those on here to either ignore potentially good news or find a way of dissing it. Here's an article from the Mirror which may make it more believable even though it doesn't say anything more than the Mail article posted earlier.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...t-nhs-22901794

    I see Vaughan Gethin got a hammering on Marr this morning for the Welsh government's confusing messaging on its firebreak. Sound familiar?
    I didn't see him get a hammering, but, clearly, banning "non essential" sales without giving some sort of idea what the term entailed was going to be a problem. However, I've no problem with the logic behind the original decision in that smaller, independent shops were, effectively, being discriminated against because supermarkets had sold the goods they specialised in while they were told they had to close.

  9. #4959

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Good, the power is going to their heads. People who most people hadn’t even heard of a year ago, and in another year hopefully never again....
    Sadly, people should have known exactly what to expect from Johnson a year ago and yet we still got landed with him, all because he said "let's get Brexit done".

  10. #4960

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I didn't see him get a hammering, but, clearly, banning "non essential" sales without giving some sort of idea what the term entailed was going to be a problem. However, I've no problem with the logic behind the original decision in that smaller, independent shops were, effectively, being discriminated against because supermarkets had sold the goods they specialised in while they were told they had to close.
    Do you think that online shops should also be banned from selling "non-essential" goods?

  11. #4961

    Re: Coronavirus update

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54681885

    A second Wales-wide lockdown in the new year is looking increasingly likely, according to a cabinet minister.

  12. #4962

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I didn't see him get a hammering, but, clearly, banning "non essential" sales without giving some sort of idea what the term entailed was going to be a problem. However, I've no problem with the logic behind the original decision in that smaller, independent shops were, effectively, being discriminated against because supermarkets had sold the goods they specialised in while they were told they had to close.
    Ive no problem with supermarkets not being allowed to sell non essential items. The idea is to avoid unnecessary contact with others so if you dont need something then dont go to the supermarket.

  13. #4963

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Do you think that online shops should also be banned from selling "non-essential" goods?
    What's that got to do with anything? The point here is that specialist shops were forced to close first time around while supermarkets carried on selling the goods they traded in - that's discrimination and something should be done about it, the problem was that a term like "non essential goods" was never going to be precise enough to ensure this happened.

    Maybe it would have been better if the type of shops that had to close were listed and supermarkets told they couldn't sell the goods these shops specialised in?

  14. #4964

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54681885

    A second Wales-wide lockdown in the new year is looking increasingly likely, according to a cabinet minister.
    Its inevitable I think.

  15. #4965

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54681885

    A second Wales-wide lockdown in the new year is looking increasingly likely, according to a cabinet minister.
    The surprise for me would be that anyone thought the current one would be enough to prevent something similar happening later in the winter.

  16. #4966

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Do you think that online shops should also be banned from selling "non-essential" goods?
    its a joke, lets be honest

    My mum phoned me yesterday ( we speak most days during covid ) and was worried if her kettle breaks, she will have to boil water on the hob

    Now i know she is old, hasnt a lot of think about, so someone phones her, mentioned if the kettle breaks, so she frets about it

    I got on Amazon and sent her one, as a spare, thats one thing less for her to fret about she will find something else today i am sure

  17. #4967

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    What's that got to do with anything? The point here is that specialist shops were forced to close first time around while supermarkets carried on selling the goods they traded in - that's discrimination and something should be done about it, the problem was that a term like "non essential goods" was never going to be precise enough to ensure this happened.

    Maybe it would have been better if the type of shops that had to close were listed and supermarkets told they couldn't sell the goods these shops specialised in?
    Aren't you still discriminating against specialist high street shops if online shops can continue to sell the same goods?

  18. #4968

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  19. #4969

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    its a joke, lets be honest

    My mum phoned me yesterday ( we speak most days during covid ) and was worried if her kettle breaks, she will have to boil water on the hob

    Now i know she is old, hasnt a lot of think about, so someone phones her, mentioned if the kettle breaks, so she frets about it

    I got on Amazon and sent her one, as a spare, thats one thing less for her to fret about she will find something else today i am sure
    Last lockdown was toilet roll.

    Now its panic buying kettles.

  20. #4970
    Heisenberg
    Guest

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Last lockdown was toilet roll.

    Now its panic buying kettles.
    It seems that panic buying has reached boiling point already.

  21. #4971

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    People are going mad, people who I doubt read more than a book a year kicking off about their access to books being restricted. Or what if the telly breaks, or the kettle, or they need to buy clothes. It's like there was absolutely no notice whatsoever, or you can't buy literally everything online, or that it's not just for two weeks.

    As with every other decision related to Covid though, there's some people who are legitimately caused problems by it. For example something I didn't think about but I heard a foster carer say is that often they get kids brought to them at very short notice with just the clothes on their back, so in that case they'd go straight to the supermarket which they can't do. I'd hope there's a proviso for extreme circumstances but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended being up at the manager's discretion.

  22. #4972

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I didn't see him get a hammering, but, clearly, banning "non essential" sales without giving some sort of idea what the term entailed was going to be a problem. However, I've no problem with the logic behind the original decision in that smaller, independent shops were, effectively, being discriminated against because supermarkets had sold the goods they specialised in while they were told they had to close.
    It seemed to me that the Welsh government is receiving the same kind of criticisms that the UK government faced such as unclear messaging and now a U turn is likely. Vaughan Gethin is a good media performer but he couldn't satisfactorily answer the criticisms he is receiving with regard to supermarkets being banned from so called inessential goods. That was my point.

  23. #4973

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Aren't you still discriminating against specialist high street shops if online shops can continue to sell the same goods?
    In a way yes, but this is specifically about shops whereby you were allowed to go into a supermarket and, say, buy a football in the spring, but not allowed to go into a specialist sports shop to do the same thing. The specialist sport shop proprietor knows that there is on line competition seven days a week/fifty two weeks a year, but in the spring, they were not allowed to compete against them or the supermarkets that sold sports goods - the current closures are not perfect for them of course, but, at least, some of the competition would not have the unfair advantage they enjoyed in the spring.

  24. #4974

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Aren't you still discriminating against specialist high street shops if online shops can continue to sell the same goods?
    There is nothing to stop high street shops trading online is there.?

  25. #4975

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    It seems that panic buying has reached boiling point already.

    Trust you to spout up

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