Reply With QuoteHave details ever emerged on anti Semitic goings on in the Labour Party?
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The Labour party have suspended Jeremy Corbyn.
It appears to be as a response to his statement this morning in response to the Labour Anti Semitism report which was critical of him.
He refused to apologise and said the report dramatically overstated the situation.
Whrn he refused to withdraw the statement he had the whip withdrawn and was suspended from the party
Have details ever emerged on anti Semitic goings on in the Labour Party?
The report by the Equalities Commission has brought this about.Originally Posted by stevo
Yes the report by the Equalities and Human Rights Commission is out this morning..
Pretty scathing apparently.
It was his response to the report which has got him suspended
The bold text appears to be the controversial part of his reaction alongside no apology offered.https://labourlist.org/2020/10/corby...ly-overstated/
“Antisemitism is absolutely abhorrent, wrong and responsible for some of humanity’s greatest crimes. As Leader of the Labour Party I was always determined to eliminate all forms of racism and root out the cancer of antisemitism. I have campaigned in support of Jewish people and communities my entire life and I will continue to do so.
“The EHRC’s report shows that when I became Labour leader in 2015, the Party’s processes for handling complaints were not fit for purpose. Reform was then stalled by an obstructive party bureaucracy. But from 2018, Jennie Formby and a new NEC that supported my leadership made substantial improvements, making it much easier and swifter to remove antisemites. My team acted to speed up, not hinder the process.
“Anyone claiming there is no antisemitism in the Labour Party is wrong. Of course there is, as there is throughout society, and sometimes it is voiced by people who think of themselves as on the left.
“Jewish members of our party and the wider community were right to expect us to deal with it, and I regret that it took longer to deliver that change than it should.
“One antisemite is one too many, but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media. That combination hurt Jewish people and must never be repeated.
“My sincere hope is that relations with Jewish communities can be rebuilt and those fears overcome. While I do not accept all of its findings, I trust its recommendations will be swiftly implemented to help move on from this period.”
I can respect that he felt that he had been obstructed from the start, this real issue had been amplified to damage his brand and what he wanted to do and that he was at risk of being hung out to dry with history being written by the winners, but was today really the day to make those points? Today was a chance to apologise for there being anti-semitism and an inadequate response to this.
Difficult for the Labour party going forward which cannot win without uniting the centre-left and left of the party while also appealing to those without a fixed political home. If Corbyn continues to be portrayed as the left by his supporters and detractors then how does it unite the party to win real change?
It was always going to happen. Corbyn isn't Anti Semitic, he's done more to defend the jewish community and other minorities than most politicians. That's not to say that there isn't an element of Anti Semitic behaviour, although most (in my opinion) raised in the form of Zionism and peoples opposition to it. This has been played out by the Tories and the media and made to look much worse than it is. They've got their man, Starmer will be happy.
Our current leader accused Muslim woman who wear the hijab as resembling 'Letterboxes' can you imagine if Corbyn or anyone from the left had said that? This country in the political sense is an absolute shambles.
Obviously not contrite enough. Welcome to 2020 when stepping out of line, standing your ground, or offending one group or another is a major crime..
On this day Labour should be apologising for what has been found and working on taking the steps recommended. Urging party members to stay calm is good as is call for party unity in fighting antisemitism.Tweet by John McDonnell:
On the day we should all be moving forward & taking all steps to fight antisemitism, the suspension of Jeremy Corbyn is profoundly wrong. In interests of party unity let’s find a way of undoing & resolving this.
I urge all party members to stay calm as that is the best way to support Jeremy and each other. Let’s all call upon the leadership to lift this suspension.
Sorry we have a politics forum. Switch this to there
One of the reasons this site is so much better than **** is not scrolling through political rubbish.
If thats what you want theres a place on this site.
Political guff....chuck it
great news.
There are some political stories that in my view deserve a wider audience at least for a while.
I have never seen the point of a separate politics board.
It is pretty obvious what the political threads are.
Just ignore them.
When I first came onto this board nearly 20 years ago there was only the one forum and everything was on here. People could contribute as they wished and any threads that didn't interest you you just ignored. If you wanted help on something like DIY or what car to get you would often find help on here
Over the years there have been various calls to set up separate forums but the only one that has been established is on politics.
I can perhaps see a point on setting up such a forum temporarily when an election is on and a lot of threads get set up, but otherwise why not do what I do to the Rock music threads that don't interest me, don't read them
It is not rocket science
Will that be him, Wilson and Tomlin out for Saturday then
Strange that the EHRC chose to ignore 300 complaints from The British Council of Muslims of Islamophobia within the Tory Party allowing the Tories to undertake their own internal review. Then again perhaps it’s not strange when the EHRC board includes a member who gave a donation to the Tories.
SPOT ON
Clears that up, free CorbynSPOT ON
Nope but it would nice to have a level playing field or do you think Jews are more important than Muslims?
Where does this post say Corbyn has done no wrong
Pearcey, there are a few on here who spend their days indulging in Whataboutism. The report is damning and and I don't think undermining the body that produced the report has any more merit than those that seek to diminish other institutions that we rely on to protect us from extremism when the boot is on the other foot.
So why are the Tories not being investigated. We all know the comments from the likes of Johnson and Goldsmith. What about the 300 complaints from the Muslim Council of Britain?
Unless you're Boris Johnson talking about pillarboxes and picanninies.
It would appear the witchhunt against Corbyn is now complete. Why he wouldn't endorse the report is a mystery and, for the sake of racism in politics, I agree with the decision to remove his membership.
He was in a cleft stick. The report said there was failure within the leadership and that the law was broken. If he had said the report was correct he would have been admitting that the law was broken on his watch. If he speaks against it he gets suspended.
Very neat for those against him, he is in a no win situation.
I don't think he is a bad man and he obviously has some very strongly held personal beliefs, but I believe he had been used and manipulated by others for their own political ends. further than that I couldn't comment on the workings of the labour party as I have no knowledge of it.
I also think it's further proof that anyone with a hint of socialist leanings getting anywhere near the position of being in charge of a government will be squashed by the establishment. No party leader had the attacks on him that Corbyn did. It's also very rare for someone of Corbyn's profile to be put in the position he was.
Politics is a dirty business. Don't fight the establishment.
Absolutely
Corbyn and his crew were idiots . I am all for democratic socialism but he was off his cake .
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