Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
On the flip side lots of terminal cancer patients, many of whom only had weeks to live, were given Covid as cause of death. Any old infection would have done it probably. The “with Covid” certification is a load of cobblers
I agree with this. I reckon the Excess Deaths figures are comfortably the best indicator of the effect of Covid-19.

There have been periods during 2020 when the overall number of deaths in the UK has been below the five-year average. That was the case as recently as early-September. However, the figures for April and May were massively above average and they are definitely on the rise again.