don't we just need an actual director of football, those guys can stay
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Never trust a car salesman .
don't we just need an actual director of football, those guys can stay
We don't agree on much but spot on.
In any other line of work this incompetence would see people out of a job.
We have been promoted twice despite this lot being here rather than because of. I honestly think a decent DOF and we would have stayed in the Premier League for at least a few seasons.
We seem to be a million miles behind other clubs with this. How many clubs of our size operate without a decent scouting structure and a DoF in place? It just means every time a manager leaves everything gets ripped up and starts again.
It wasn't that long ago we were congratulating the club for an excellent transfer window. The problem at the club doesn't rest with the Board. We have a better squad than our position in the table suggests. The problem lies with the manager.
Over past 10 years we have made a series of managerial changes which appear to be the exact opposite of what has just left.
We have had limited success in transfer market considering how active we have been.
We have had very limited success in youth development.
It's not like money hasn't been spent by Tan but we have little to show for it.
Sadly that is not my experience at those levels, most get promoted. Known as the 'Peter Principle', car salesman to CEO of a football club.
Football is also terrible for recognising incompetence, players, managers etc are constantly rewarded with a new job somewhere else. Its happens in large retail and banking firms but especially in government.
It's only the little guy and normally that isn't their fault, it is that of their incompetent manager
It wasn't Dalman & Choo TRYING to play out from the back.
A decent Director of Football would help a manager, offer support (and I mean football specific support not business support which I think are two different things in this sense).
Even the Harris supporters could agree that his style was not a change in direction. According to Dalman it was. This is one of the men we are turning to when appointing a new manager. He even laughed at how many shots he wanted us to have at a time when a very serious head was needed.
As an update on that the football hasn't changed all that much in 12 months. The league position has got worse. We got the play offs, failed and now we are looking at a relegation battle rather than promotion if we're being honest.
As it is we have bit part car dealers who allocate some of their time to this. We need a full time DOF and have for quite some time. Just throwing another badly picked manager in and saying "Succeed or else" won't work with people who do not understand the footballing world.
Clubs are evolving around us and seeing success. Cardiff City are stagnating with non football people in key positions and are in danger of going backwards very fast if it isn't remedied.
To put it another way would Ken Choo put a Director of Football in charge of his car dealership. I very much doubt it, and for the same reasons the same should not happen the other way.
City are an established Championship team. They should be knocking on the door and making progress. If Tan is so content on watching the pennies then the best thing he could do is put somebody in charge to oversee this who know what they are doing and not two people who are playing at guiding the club forward.
Keeping these people in their positions, being hit and miss with managers, transfers and the like is losing him far more money than a decent wage for a Director or Football would cost.
A DoF would aim to ensure we have a longer term plan and stick to it, that each change is an evolution rather than an expensive and time consuming revolution. Arguably, Harris being brought in and the last two posts highlighting that our players being encouraged to play out from the back more and yet the style has not changed that dramatically is exactly what a DoF would call evolution.
A decent director of football might go some way to explaining where we are going wrong though and be able to offer support.
Can you see Dalman or Choo discussing with Harris what went wrong last night in detail outside of we didn't shoot and score enough? Some of their comments are beyond belief.
I think when the brown stuff hits the fan at City you need to look at everything that went wrong. At the moment I think it is a case of just pointing at the manager and using him as a scapegoat.
Put simply if any of us set up say a plumbing business tomorrow.
You got your brother who was an electrician involved, your mate who cleaned a few windows and some lad who was an accountant to oversee what they were all doing. Would you be surprised if the whole thing went belly up fast?
You would see what was wrong fairly early and fix it though I'm sure. We're sacking one bloke each time and pretending everything else is great. It isn't.
That's far too sensible a suggestion for CCFC.
Someone with football experience, who also knows finances. When not to pay too much in transfer fees (Madine etc), or too high wages (everybody Warnock signed).
It's clear that Dalman and Choo have no idea when negotiating with players' agents, so get someone in who has that experience.
And a manager who doesn't turn decent players in to relegation fodder too.
Given all of the evidence since 2013, do people seriously believe that a club owned and controlled by Vincent Tan is ever going to appoint a genuine Director of Football and give such a person any real influence?
Oh for sure but there's so many key areas we haven't been addressed for two windows now. How we've got the same centre midfield for 2 transfer windows is mad. One right back? I'd have driven Gavin Whyte somewhere, how we couldn't get anything for him I don't know. You might as well pay him up now, he's behind Mark Harris in the pecking order. He's not even the worst buy of that bloody transfer window.