Are we at the stage where there's a major rebuild needed?

[Rjk]

Undoubtedly.

As it is, we've not had any progress, just short termism. It all goes back to 2012. When Malky was appointed, he was given 3 years to get the club into the Championship. Because we finished in the playoffs and got to the league cup final, the board decided to reduce that time to 2 years - the year we won the Championship the board was expecting promotion.

Ever since then it's been about the here and now. The foundations weren't built for a spell in the Premier League and we came back down. The quality in the side dwindled under Slade's austerity, then we had the short-lived "Cardiff Way" under Trollope, where he tried to get average players playing a Welsh style game.

Warnock added some pace and got the best out of a few players and won promotion, but that covered up the cracks. We were a poor footballing side in the PL that deservedly came back down and we started a new season back in the Championship with a squad low on confidence.

We rarely buy players for peanuts and sell for a profit. We never bring through our own players. We tend to buy and sell on at a loss. It's not sustainable as it is.

I think the difference is that 15 or 20 years ago, pretty much every team were haphazard with their appointments, but nowadays we are in a dwindling minority of clubs that don't plan for the longer term, so the effects of it seem more stark.