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who are you watching Tony..?Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Ojo was the only player today who doesn't deserve the full wrath of this messageboard
The fundamental problem with this team is the lack of quality in midfield. Harris has found a way to mitigate that in the last few matches, but we were ****ed today when we conceded the first goal because we couldn't chase the game with Ralls and Vaulks up against their three.
didnt have to be a genius to work out this 1 today, little run of game or not i resigned myself to the fact before kick off... like a pair of boxers coming out and walking to the ring you could see who seemed more up for it, and that was before a ball was kicked, on pitch no question... im not proud enough to admit we could even adopt some of the play... they seemed fitter, quicker, more techical, skillfull... what else can you say, id have said the same words no matter what team it was... ill understand the passion of anyone else who sees different i thought i just as well be honest with myself... never mind on to the next 1 its a game out of the way and move on to another
Agree,I don't think Harris is up to the job but the players always seem to escape scrutiny. They should be embarrassed by how easy it was for Swansea today, but I doubt they'll care
we weren't even that
Do you honestly believe he is the man to take us forward? By 'forward' I mean into the play-offs or thereabouts by the end of this season, and possibly promotion next season?
Just said the same men against boys,the level of lack of skill compared to the Jacks was embarrassing.
They look a good side.
who are you watching Tony..?
Ojo was the only player today who doesn't deserve the full wrath of this messageboard
So I’ll give it both barrels !!!
He’s not good enough in this team. Maybe he needs better players around him !!! ??
Mediocre, average, not good enough, it's not passion or fatigue, it's lack of quality ability & decision making. We simply have too many average players and the better players are made to look average by what surrounds them. Add in an uninspiring average manager and we have a middle of the table, win some, lose some team.
Still back the manager. But sticking with the system which clearly wasnt working is baffling.
We cant play Glatzel in a 442 midweek.
Harris has to go to the bench and Wilson as the number 10.
Lets hope Tomlin is fit in the new year.
Just over a year ago.
..every cloud
I don't agree with changing formation with so little time to work on it in between games, but we should be looking at incorporating a diamond with front three of Glatzel, Harris and Wilson (or Glatzel, Wilson and Ojo) into our play-book for when Moore needs a rest.
What we really don't need right now is a game in a couple of days time and yet that's what we have. We're likely to lose that as well because the majority of our side need a rest (Nelson looks absolutely desperate for some time out the side) and yet we have no one to feel comfortable about coming in. Having decided to not rest players against Stoke, we desperately needed Harris (manager) to do so today and hang the negative press it would have lead to.
We're limping to January and the transfer window. Need to keep our heads and not be overly negative...can local press/fans/chairman manage that?
Thing is it isn't rocket science. You get a manager in who can play a decent style. Their central midfield that outclassed ours came from QPR, Wigan and Bristol City. We have sat by idly and seem to be content with midfielders who don't do anything very well other than make safe passes backwards and sideways. The man who put us to the sword came from Wigan but benefitted from a decent footballing philosophy, a manager who knew what it meant to fans and the games importance and set them up well. If you put Lowe in our team there he wouldn't have had a sniff.
We suffer as a club due to having a board who think changing one man and giving him a bit of cash and they've cracked it. The fact they picked Harris and said it was us going in a new direction to me is an alarming sign of their lack of football knowledge.
What City are churning out here is what Harris produces. He is direct, he has changed it a bit but not enough and certainly not enough to take us up.
Let's be honest the 4 wins recently have done little more than get us closer to where we should be. We are still underachieving this season.
I am honestly not sure what the game plan is under Harris and couldn't today. It seems get the ball in the box and put in some long throws and hope for the best. If somebody can explain what our shape and game plan was today then I'm all ears.
We never turn up for it, don't know why we bother
Just had a horrible thought, this could have been at Wembley a few months agoAt least that would have been without fans.
Does anyone, outside of Cardiff, see us as one of the top six sides this year? The answer is no. We're a top ten side who are currently...ninth.
Harris is the man to get us promoted next year or the year after. Sack him now and we have to add another year onto that.
The difference was huge, Swansea streets ahead of us. Well coached, good technical players, know what to do and when all built within a clear framework that sets them up well and a clear gameplan.
We on the other hand pass it around and hope someone else does something, or maybe the ball will fall in the box off one of our set pieces, fair play to Swansea they were by far the better team. I don't think we'd have scored even if Bennett had been sent off
After watching that, are we underachieving? The number of places below Swansea that we are seems about right after today’s game, or perhaps we should be further away from them.
Can’t wait for the Will Vaulks post match “we weren’t at our best today but we’ll put it right and go again” tweet
Good post.
But Harris can only play the hand he is given.
Any manager needs a few transfer windows to prove themself.
I would hate to be in charge of this lot.
This is the worst team in twenty years.
But compared to the 90's/ 80s and 70s we can't complain.
CTID
Ps, well done Jacks, enjoy it while you can.
Harris has overseen this midfield and not added anything or changed it though.
Nothing has changed in the middle since Warnock.
Harris was in a very difficult position in my opinion. Firstly, if he had changed a team that had won four on the bounce and they'd got beaten, he would have been slaughtered. Secondly, if he did want to make changes, what could he have done exactly?
You're right, though - they got away with it at Stoke. They didn't get away with it today.
I think the frustration is the style of lack of style in our play. Even in the wins. It's not Harris fault, this is how is teams have played since he has been a manager. I look at Dalman who promised us a change in style after Warnock and went for Harris.
Results wise I think Harris has given us as much as we expected so I won't fault him for that.
Because it was "one out, one in" during the summer and nobody was taking Pack or Vaulks off our hands.
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