Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
You're as guilty as those who make you smile though really aren't you, because you're looking at the situation as someone who consistently takes a certain political line and is sticking to it when it comes to the situation regarding Brexit - you make all sorts of judgements on those who feel differently to you, rightly pointing out that they are jumping to conclusions regarding a document that few will have read, but then you're doing the same from the other side aren't you.

All I'll see on the matter in this thread is that the name given to it is typical of a way of thinking which runs central to many leave voters views on Europe - Brexit is the war with Johnny Foreigner that they haven't lived through.
This is not the first time you have stated that I take a particular political line and it is as untrue now as it was the first time you peddled it. Unless of course you mean saying something that goes against your philosophy. I have clearly stated on this forum more than once that I voted to remain in the EU, as I thought it was the better option, but the fact is the country voted to leave, so one has to be pragmatic and get on with the business. My dislike of Drakeford is personal not political, I just don't like the man and I question his motives in some of the things he does. It isn't political at all.
The only judgement I make is on certain people who judge everything by their own political beliefs, and in doing so will automatically say something is bad or wrong whatever it is, if it doesn't agree with their ideas of how things should be, even, as you accept, they don't even know what that something is yet.
You only have to read some of the posts in this thread to understand that this is so, if one can see part one's own political beliefs.
The real fact is that the country voted for this and then the country voted for the current Westminster Government on the promise to do this and finish it, and they have. And many of those who did vote in this government are people who's naturally affinity is to another party. Perhaps some on here might quietly reflect on why that may have been.
What happens in the next few years will determine the rightness or wrongness of it, and nothing else. no one can state now that it is wrong.