Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

This isn't a slight on Wilson at all but if we could have spent the loan wages on somebody in the middle then I would have taken that all day.

As much as I'm not Wilson's biggest fan he is on a hiding to nothing here.

Who's going to play out wide then? Harris is unlucky with Tomlin being injured (or he is paying the price for rushing him back).

[City123]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

Tomlin produced more in his little spell at the tail end of last season than Wilson has so far this season.

I disagree with you in that I do not think he is one of the best players in the championship. He does not produce that quality enough. For me he hasn't this year up to now either. Top players go looking for the ball, impose themselves on the game. Wilson hasn't done that anywhere near regularly enough.

You will probably say he has. It is all about opinions.

Wilson produced the same at Derby that Tomlin did last season from a wide position when he wasn't even the main man. He's also scored 7 goals in the Premier League, a level Tomlin has never played at

You complain that Wilson isn't consistent enough, is there a player more inconsistent than Tomlin? What's he done this year? Got himself sent off and injured. He's petulant and unreliable, that run at the end of the season was the first good run he'd produced in about 5 years and the only good one he's produced at Cardiff City.

Wilson works hard and is clearly talented, easily our best winger. He'd shine in a side like Swansea

[blue lewj]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

Who's going to play out wide then? Harris is unlucky with Tomlin being injured (or he is paying the price for rushing him back).

I'm just saying our need in the middle was greater than bringing in another winger/wide midfielder.

He also came in when we still had NML on the books. So we still had NML, Hoilett, Murphy, Ojo and White as the wingers on the books.

[NYCBlue]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

Averaging his stats for the last 3 years, he gets 1.6 goals and 3.3 assists a year. None of either so far this year. He might occasionally look good but 90% of the time he's completely ineffective

To be fair, he doesn't always start. And in 2019-20 he had 37 appearances (27 starts) with 4 goals and 9 assists. That's not bad.

[delmbox]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

To be fair, he doesn't always start. And in 2019-20 he had 37 appearances (27 starts) with 4 goals and 9 assists. That's not bad.

I just think he's hugely overhyped, the way he's spoken about by some you'd think he was the next coming of Ronaldo

[Rjk]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

To be fair, he doesn't always start. And in 2019-20 he had 37 appearances (27 starts) with 4 goals and 9 assists. That's not bad.

And that's in a pretty pragmatic Wolves team.
He's also a lot of fun to watch, and definitely makes space for others as teams often put two people on him.
I can't see him playing for one of the big sides, but he is good entertainment value.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

I'm just saying our need in the middle was greater than bringing in another winger/wide midfielder.

He also came in when we still had NML on the books. So we still had NML, Hoilett, Murphy, Ojo and White as the wingers on the books.

NML was sacked before the season started. Wilson signed in on deadline day. So, that's absolute nonsense. Ojo was NML's replacement. They tried to shift Whyte and nobody wanted to know.

Gavin Whyte is awful, Murphy has done sod all for 2 seasons so that leaves us with Hoilett, whose legs are going, and Ojo.

Tomlin was our 10, was always going to be and we are/were too reliant on him. We needed a winger. Harris thought we could get away with our midfield like we did last season, he's found out we can't.

[blue lewj]

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NML was sacked before the season started. Wilson signed in on deadline day. So, that's absolute nonsense. Ojo was NML's replacement. They tried to shift Whyte and nobody wanted to know.

Gavin Whyte is awful, Murphy has done sod all for 2 seasons so that leaves us with Hoilett, whose legs are going, and Ojo.

Tomlin was our 10, was always going to be and we are/were too reliant on him. We needed a winger. Harris thought we could get away with our midfield like we did last season, he's found out we can't.

I stand by what I say about the central areas needing more attention than the wing.

The money has been wasted out there with the way that we play.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

I stand by what I say about the central areas needing more attention than the wing.

The money has been wasted out there with the way that we play.

Who was going to play wide if we didn't get anyone in?

[NYCBlue]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

I just think he's hugely overhyped, the way he's spoken about by some you'd think he was the next coming of Ronaldo

I agree to an extent. But he definitely made an impact last season. And his speed makes him exciting to watch when he comes on as a sub. Something to talk about for the commentators I suppose.

[delmbox]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

I agree to an extent. But he definitely made an impact last season. And his speed makes him exciting to watch when he comes on as a sub. Something to talk about for the commentators I suppose.

Agreed on all counts

[Rjk]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

He's 20 and Schalke are the worst side in recent history. It's way too early to judge.

coincidentally just seen this on twitter - schalke are terrible aren't they.20210104_194835.jpg

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

coincidentally just seen this on twitter - schalke are terrible aren't they.

One game off the joint worst winless run in Bundesliga history, Tasmania Berlin want them to win so they keep the record

They're absolute garbage.

[blue lewj]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

One game off the joint worst winless run in Bundesliga history, Tasmania Berlin want them to win so they keep the record

They're absolute garbage.

They are awful.

Matondo couldn't break into that team this season.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Rabbi Matondo to Stoke

They are awful.

Matondo couldn't break into that team this season.

They tried to sell him to Frankfurt and Augsburg in the summer but it fell through. Again, it can't be easy for a 20 year old in a side that loses every single week. He's actually made the squad or started for a lot of the games he's been fit. His best game last season was as a striker in a 3-1 win vs Leipzig.