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Thread: FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

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    FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Saturday 9th January, 2021. ko 12 noon

    Match Officials:


    Referee: David Webb
    Assistants: Rob Smith & Mark Cunliffe
    Fourth Official: Thomas Bramall

    The game is being streamed live on BT Sport Extra 4 HD

    Clubs are now able to name a maximum of nine substitutes of which five may be used.

    Teams are permitted a maximum of three opportunities (excluding half time) to make substitutions during normal time, and with the ability to carry over any unused substitutes and make a further substitution should the tie progress to extra time.

    All games level after 90 mins will have 30 mins extra time and then if needed penalties.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    At least we'll get it over with in 1 go. Still not sure whether to buy a match pass, might rely on a dodgy stream.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    From next season, all FA cup ties to be shared between BBC and ITV.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Chance for extending the club record to 7 successive away wins.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Former Labour leader View Post
    At least we'll get it over with in 1 go. Still not sure whether to buy a match pass, might rely on a dodgy stream.
    Well it'll probably be Bamba & Nelson at centre back so it'll be a fun watch

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Well it'll probably be Bamba & Nelson at centre back so it'll be a fun watch
    Bamba injured, as is Flint and Morrison.

    Wales online suggest the following four possibilities to partner Nelson:

    Firstly, and perhaps the one which fits most naturally, is Greg Cunningham. The Republic of Ireland international, who is more at home at left back, has played there many times before and could slot straight in.

    He has found game time hard to come by this season, though, owing to a hamstring injury, the latest in a long line of injury troubles over the past 12 months for the defender. However, if match fit, this could be an opportunity for him to shine.

    The two other left backs, Joe Bennett and Joel Bagan, are also in consideration to fill that berth.

    While Bagan perhaps offers a height advantage at 6ft 3ins, Bennett has more experience of senior football, a quality which cannot be underestimated at centre back.

    Lastly, however, there is Will Vaulks.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Vaulks ain't disciplined enough to play CB - We'd concede at least two penalties before him getting sent off.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    Bamba injured, as is Flint and Morrison.

    Wales online suggest the following four possibilities to partner Nelson:

    Firstly, and perhaps the one which fits most naturally, is Greg Cunningham. The Republic of Ireland international, who is more at home at left back, has played there many times before and could slot straight in.

    He has found game time hard to come by this season, though, owing to a hamstring injury, the latest in a long line of injury troubles over the past 12 months for the defender. However, if match fit, this could be an opportunity for him to shine.

    The two other left backs, Joe Bennett and Joel Bagan, are also in consideration to fill that berth.

    While Bagan perhaps offers a height advantage at 6ft 3ins, Bennett has more experience of senior football, a quality which cannot be underestimated at centre back.

    Lastly, however, there is Will Vaulks.
    Even better!

    Surely there's a centre back in the academy?

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17 View Post
    Vaulks ain't disciplined enough to play CB - We'd concede at least two penalties before him getting sent off.
    I was surprised to read how often Vaulks played CB earlier in his career. The other bit of the quote from the Wales Online article above:

    Lastly, however, there is Will Vaulks.

    The Wales international, who usually patrols the middle of the pitch, played at centre back 62 times for Falkirk and on a handful of occasions for his former club Rotherham.

    He, in fact, has far greater experience in the middle of a back four than any of the above and is thought to be considered as a real candidate to partner Nelson at Forest.


    Whatever option Harris goes for against Forest, it will be a real dogs breakfast of a team selection.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Even better!

    Surely there's a centre back in the academy?
    Cardiff City, using the academy?

    Got a career in stand up planned?

    Gun to my head, I'd go Vaulks Nelson Cunningham, with Bennett and Bacuna as wing backs.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Even better!

    Surely there's a centre back in the academy?
    I still think of Bagan as more of a centre back than a left back, he played there for the Academy and I was surprised when he started playing left back for the under-23s. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up playing as his career progresses. Him and Cunningham should be fine on Saturday, whoever plays wherever.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Cardiff City, using the academy?

    Got a career in stand up planned?

    Gun to my head, I'd go Vaulks Nelson Cunningham, with Bennett and Bacuna as wing backs.
    Is Osei-Tutu still injured?

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    Ben Margetson could be called up from u23. Maybe play a back 3 with Nelson, Margetson, Cunningham. Wing backs Sang and Began.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiwbina Blues View Post
    Ben Margetson could be called up from u23. Maybe play a back 3 with Nelson, Margetson, Cunningham. Wing backs Sang and Began.
    Sang's cup tied. Wouldn't be surprised to see Margetson on the bench though.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Is Osei-Tutu still injured?
    Harris has said he won't be back this week.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Harris has said he won't be back this week.
    Had covid

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Saturday, Covid willing, will see our 250th FA cup tie. Of the previous 249, we've won 98, lost 92 and drawn 59. Of the draws, we've won 26 replays, lost 26 and needed 7 2nd replays, the last against Millwall in 1987. We've lost our only 2 penalty shootouts in the FA cup, both to Reading (in the league cup, we've won every penalty shoot out bar one, bar bloody one......)

    We've faced Arsenal and Manchester City most often, playing them 10 times each. Familiarity didn't lead to a good record. Despite 1 win over Man City and 2 over the Gunners, we lost 5 ties against both, making them the sides we've lost to most often. Next comes Leeds Utd, though they are also the side we've beaten in the FA cup most often, winning and losing 4. Much of that winning run comes from the late 1950s, when we won 3 successive 3rd round away ties by the same scoreline, 2-1.

    We've played 96 different sides in the FA cup. Perhaps amazingly, we haven't played 25 sides currently in the football league. These include Blackpool, Bournemouth, Bradford City, Crystal Palace, Doncaster Rovers, Huddersfield Town, Lincoln City, Newport County, Preston North End and Rotherham United.

    Our biggest win was in 1931 against Enfield, who we would renew acquaintances with in the early 90s when they dumped us out of the cup once and forced us into a replay. The win was 8-0. We beat Chester 6-0 in 1998. We also managed three 4 goal wins; 6-2 vs Exeter in 1975, 5-1 vs The Gas in 2000 and 4-0 against Leyton Orient in 1931 (the round after the 8-0 against Enfield).

    Our heaviest cup defeats were in 1929, losing 6-1 at Villa, and 1938, losing 5-0 at Charlton. We've lost 4-0 on two occasions, to Arsenal and Spurs in cup replays, in 2009 and 2007 respectively, both following 0-0 draws at Ninian Park.

    We've conceded 3 goals at home on 9 occasions, to greats like Tottenham, Wolves, Dartford, Weymouth and Bath City. We've also won the cup once and made two other finals. Joys of the cup!!

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    Saturday 9th January, 2021. ko 12 noon

    Match Officials:


    Referee: David Webb
    Assistants: Rob Smith & Mark Cunliffe
    Fourth Official: Thomas Bramall

    The game is being streamed live on BT Sport Extra 4 HD

    Clubs are now able to name a maximum of nine substitutes of which five may be used.

    Teams are permitted a maximum of three opportunities (excluding half time) to make substitutions during normal time, and with the ability to carry over any unused substitutes and make a further substitution should the tie progress to extra time.

    All games level after 90 mins will have 30 mins extra time and then if needed penalties.
    I know that I’ll probably be disappointed but I’m looking forward to what a should be a good game: all to play for without the pressure of dropping points (no point in sitting back and playing negatively), all the available players should be well rested, and maybe we’ll see something/somebody new?

    What could possibly go wrong? :-/
    Last edited by Bobby Dandruff; 08-01-21 at 17:04. Reason: Typo

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Phillips

    Bacuna
    Vaulks (if he can successfully shift to CB then allows us to bring in new midfielder this summer and reduces pressure to bring in new CB - hence the defence not changing significantly).
    Nelson
    Bagan

    Pack
    Patten

    Whyte
    Murphy
    Hoilett

    Glatzel

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Phillips

    Bacuna
    Vaulks (if he can successfully shift to CB then allows us to bring in new midfielder this summer and reduces pressure to bring in new CB - hence the defence not changing significantly).
    Nelson
    Bagan

    Pack
    Patten

    Whyte
    Murphy
    Hoilett

    Glatzel
    I assume Cunningham will play. I'm not sure if Sam Bowen is back with us now Barry aren't playing, I think he'd be ahead of Patten if he is, but I'm all for a new face in central midfield either way, I'm with you there. Could be an interesting line-up.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Be nice to see a couple of the u23 players, but I think Harris will want to win and keep changes to a minimum. He's got a couple of calls to make as it is.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Early morning call for linky please. CC not streaming this one.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiwbina Blues View Post
    Ben Margetson could be called up from u23. Maybe play a back 3 with Nelson, Margetson, Cunningham. Wing backs Sang and Began.
    Margetson or Oliver Denham seem to be the most likely candidates to come in at centreback if we're looking outside the first team squad. However, I reckon someone like Cunningham or Vaulks will play there. Whether we pick our strongest available team or not is a tough one to judge - based on Neil Harris' pre game comments about the competition, it seems unlikely, but our manager definitely needs a win.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Match facts

    • The last FA Cup meeting between Nottingham Forest and Cardiff was in the fifth round in 1927/28, a 2-1 win for Forest.
    • Cardiff have won their last six away matches against Nottingham Forest, all in the league between May 2015 and September 2020. It is their longest away winning run against an opponent in their history.
    • Nottingham Forest have lost seven of their last nine FA Cup matches (W2), losing their last three in a row, last losing four in a row between 2000 and 2003.
    • Cardiff manager Neil Harris has progressed from four of his previous five FA Cup third round ties, last going out at this stage in 2013/14 when his Millwall side lost 4-1 to Scunthorpe.

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    Re: NOTTINGHAM FOREST v CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

    Phillips starts in goal. Bagan also in the XI.

    Rest of side is first team

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