Reply With QuoteCongratulations. You manage to praise the Tories while having a go at the EU and Labour govt in Wales in one go. There's a surprise....Originally Posted by life on mars
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Listening to the radio it seems Europe( even the super efficient Germany ) is lagging well behind in procurement and administering the vaccine, not sure if true we've vaccinated more than all of Europe and only lag behind a few others in the world.
Perhaps Europe's desire to go as one was a mistake in hindsight?
That early UK investment and preparation was well thought out and delivered.
My only disappointment is the slow progress in Wales , pharmacies are delivering in England, as we still trial them still , even churches and supermarkets are being readied and used in England.
Anyways well done the UK ( well some of it )
Congratulations. You manage to praise the Tories while having a go at the EU and Labour govt in Wales in one go. There's a surprise....
LOM surprises me, he has documented on here that he grew up in hardship and that it followed him into adulthood, yet he seems to champion every policy and political group that would've probably contributed towards his earlier difficulties. This isn't a pro labour post, because starker; isn't any good, he's already started to cosy up to the right and big boss financial funders.
You do make me laugh 😆
Boris is a cnut
I wasn't expecting it , he's caught me off guard 😳
don't like starmer at all
Just like they are leading the highest death rate and highest economic damage in Europe while have 20+ miles of sea in every direction, pathetic excuse for a government.
Also 9 months late to close the borders, wasn’t that what Brexit was all about? Useless
I'm still baffled why he was elected as leader. Commentators put the election loss down to Corbyn (obviously) and Labour's BREXIT policy yet the Party elected the man responsible for that policy. Doh!!!!
Donald Trump was leading in the election when he went to bed.
If it's a race, shouldn't you wait until it's over?
Yep, no problem in praise when due. The government certainly gets a battering every other day, often warranted lately.
The slow and super steady approach from Drakeford isn't a surprise. Can do no wrong though Labour in Wales.
He's a bright bloke but he's no leader
Mind you I want the end of the labour party and a formation of a left of centre opposition as most people don't vote Conservative, a decent alternative without idiots like corbyn and his lot would sweep up , I mean Boris is a complete time bomb
There are a lot of decent women in the Labour Party that would make good leaders - Lisa Nandy, Rachel Reeves and Yvette Cooper to name three. There must have been better candidates than Starmer. I'm surprised you want the Liberals anywhere near the Labour Party given their coalition with the Tories but perhaps you are moving to the right.
No but I realise that this country will never elect a socialist government so I have to try and get as close to that as I can . I would never vote Liberal unless they were the only alternative to the tories . I think the Labour Party is done . Rachel Reeves would make a great leader of a left of centre opposition .
Some would say its false consciousness through cultural hegemony
Labour are finished. Controlled by a managerial class in million pound houses with too much to lose, the modern Labour Party will never bring about real change
Labour are not finished, nor will be, in Wales. The Party can make a mess of many things but will still be elected. Even nationally Labour will have a chance in 4 years time as the Tories will lose popularity as a result of COVID unless they get the vaccination programme right.
The 2008 financial crisis ruined Labour even though in hindsight they handled the crisis reasonably well. COVID may well turn out to be the Tories equivalent.
I think I'm right in saying he was elected leader and effectively Prime Minister with just 90000 votes. Doesn't seem right to me.
It is equally baffling why the Tories voted Johnson as Leader, why the Labour Party voted for Corbyn (and now Starmer) and in the USA why the public voted for Trump. There is something odd going on in political parties as to why they vote for such unsuitable leaders.
As for the voting system I think if you look back in history more people voted for the Tories than Labour even when Labour won elections. It's the system.
Interesting the Tories are keen to allow country by country comparisons on vaccines but not on COVID deaths...
I dont think that's happened very often. It's certainly going to be a hell of a lot harder for Labour to win with the new 600 seats.
I just don't think it will, the Tories are still at 40% in spite of the constant feck ups, the boundaries have been redrawn cutting Wales' seats by 8 and would see the Tories gain 10 with Labour losing 9. The Conservative vote in the south of England & outside the cities is so strong its highly unlikely Labour will make any inroads. Labour's only realistic route into power is in coalition with the SNP which they know will trigger another referendum and likely secession. The Conservatives are backed by most of our media, any ideas that are even broadly left of centre are ridiculed and deemed as the "loony left", whilst scandals are just allowed to happen without any repercussions for the ruling party.
Added to this is that the Conservatives are an election winning machine. In all likelihood Johnson won't last until the next election when someone relatively "clean" comes in after being hyped up by the press and Starmer will be painted as a far left, authoritarian anti democracy judge part of a metropolitan London elite. I just can't see a Labour government in the near future
I beleive the have cancelled or at least posponed the reduction to 600, for the next election anyway. But the boundary commission will reducve labours chances of winning an election.
Probably too far to the right of Stalin for your tastes ?
Another thread hijacked by the lefties to do a bit of Tory bashing. I thought that this was a football supporters forum and for the avoidance of doubt, anyone doesn't have to be a raving left wing socialist to follow City or enjoy football but anyone who remotely indicates they might not be of that persuasion is continually attacked.
Brilliantly put. Sludge is a right wing apologist if he's advocating a Centrist (right wing in most languages) Party in place of Labour.
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