How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

[Gofer Blue]

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I may have missed something but who are these vaccinators who would be standing around doing nothing? Surely they have their normal "day jobs" to be getting on with or has WAG somehow magically conjured up lots of unemployed people to become vaccinators?

No-one on the BBC Wales news coverage has asked this basic question!

[xsnaggle]

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I have no idea why they're doing it, and it doesn't sound like drakeford does either. presumably a decision made for a logistical reason that hasn't been explained well enough.
from a political point of view it would be far better frlor drakeford to burn through the vaccines as fast as possible and then moan loudly that the UK government weren't giving them enough.

To believe that Drakeford said something that he has no idea about is to suggest that he listens to people and takes advice. But everything we know about him suggests that he makes all the decisions and he lays down the rules and those around him just agree. He is dogmatic and believes he knows best, plus a lot of his decisions and his utterences whether right or wrong, have been politically motivated, which probably isn't the best reason for making them in such trying uncertain times..
I think on the evidence of his previous statements we must assume he knows exactly what he is saying, and he clearly cannot see anything wrong with the policy he is employing.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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To believe that Drakeford said something that he has no idea about is to suggest that he listens to people and takes advice. But everything we know about him suggests that he makes all the decisions and he lays down the rules and those around him just agree. He is dogmatic and believes he knows best, plus a lot of his decisions and his utterences whether right or wrong, have been politically motivated, which probably isn't the best reason for making them in such trying uncertain times..
I think on the evidence of his previous statements we must assume he knows exactly what he is saying, and he clearly cannot see anything wrong with the policy he is employing.

The one thing about Drakeford is that his language is very clear I may be wrong but I heard he read Latin at University and possibly taught it (think I made the second bit up) and I think he speaks with real clarity as a result.

He knows what he's saying and I suspect there is a lot more behind the scenes that messageboard users are not privy to.

[Elwood Blues]

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I have hesitated to be overly critical of any of the home leaders during this crisis though I do not see that any of them have been outstanding.

But unless I am missing something Drakeford is being really stupid here.

If Boris or Matt Hancock said this they would be crucified by the Media and Twitterati (and this messageboard)

[Cleve van Leef]

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No-one on the BBC Wales news coverage has asked this basic question!

They never do ask, especially BBC journos. They’re a complete waste of space.

[Croesy Blue]

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I have hesitated to be overly critical of any of the home leaders during this crisis though I do not see that any of them have been outstanding.

But unless I am missing something Drakeford is being really stupid here.

If Boris or Matt Hancock said this they would be crucified by the Media and Twitterati (and this messageboard)

I have to agree unless I'm completely missing something he sounds like an idiot.

[Tuerto]

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I have hesitated to be overly critical of any of the home leaders during this crisis though I do not see that any of them have been outstanding.

But unless I am missing something Drakeford is being really stupid here.

If Boris or Matt Hancock said this they would be crucified by the Media and Twitterati (and this messageboard)

Agreed. I'm a Labour Party member and this makes no sense to me whatsoever.

[Moodybluebird]

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I have hesitated to be overly critical of any of the home leaders during this crisis though I do not see that any of them have been outstanding.

But unless I am missing something Drakeford is being really stupid here.

If Boris or Matt Hancock said this they would be crucified by the Media and Twitterati (and this messageboard)

Totally agree with you Elwood. Like you I have not been over critical of any of the leaders as they've had a devil of a job to do in these trying times. But Drakeford has made himself look like the village idiot with this policy and the sooner he's kicked out the better.

[Michael Morris]

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Talk Radio found it incredulous and their expert also can't understand Drakeford's logic.

[Delbert]

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Mark “it’s not a sprint” Drakeford’s decision to deliberately delay protecting high risk individuals because he doesn’t want “vaccinators standing around with nothing to do" amounts to negligence. Hopefully the protests that have followed his remarks result in an urgent U-turn.

It appears politicians, the media and the medical establishment have decided they can no longer pretend they have confidence in the First Minister’s ability to roll out the mass vaccination programme in Wales. I am relieved people are now starting to hold him to account.

[BLUETIT]

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About standing still, one of the first rules of employment, "NEVER STAND STILL", there's always a brush to use.

PS:------ yes stand still, if you're on the pointy end of a knife throwing act

[xsnaggle]

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About standing still, one of the first rules of employment, "NEVER STAND STILL", there's always a brush to use.

PS:------ yes stand still, if you're on the pointy end of a knife throwing act

Yeah, always "appear" to be doing something?

[LeningradCowboy]

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Many messages from NHS 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 staff following @fmwales on @BBCRadio4 — “There’s no science or reason behind this. It’s a particular threat to frontline staff waiting for 2nd dose of Pfizer. We are being forced to work in an exceedingly high risk environment. I’m f***ing livid.” pic.twitter.com/I7YrHPYo3y

— Huw Edwards (@huwbbc) January 18, 2021

[LeningradCowboy]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55715903

Wales' health minister has insisted there is an "increasing urgency and an increasing pace of delivery" of vaccinations in the country.

[the other bob wilson]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55715903

Wales' health minister has insisted there is an "increasing urgency and an increasing pace of delivery" of vaccinations in the country.

Drakeford's comments from yesterday have been "clarified" - still baffled as to what he meant.

Not sure it's the NHS that are the source of concern about letting people down, more the politicians.