Superbowl

[NYCBlue]

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The Oilers moved to Tennessee and then changed their name to the Titans. Houston got a new team in the expansion (I think - this happened when I stopped following it for a while too).

The Baltimore Colts moved to Indianapolis
The Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore and became the Ravens
The Cleveland Browns are an expansion team
The Rams moved from LA to St Louis and then back to LA
The St Louis Cardinals (formerly of Chicago) moved to Phoenix and eventually changed their name to the Arizona Cardinals
The Raiders moved from Oakland to LA, back to Oakland, and then to Vegas
The Houston Oilers moved to Tennesee and became the Titans
The Houston Texans are an expansion team
The LA Chargers started in LA, moved to San Diego and then back to LA.

[Der Kaiser]

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Should the Bucs win, Brady should be held in the same regard as Michael Jordan within the American sports-sphere. What he will have done will never be matched, and Mahomes losing to 43 year old Brady will have removed any opportunity he may have had in the future to usurp Brady as the 'goat'.

Pressure's on Kansas nqat.

[NYCBlue]

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Should the Bucs win, Brady should be held in the same regard as Michael Jordan within the American sports-sphere. What he will have done will never be matched, and Mahomes losing to 43 year old Brady will have removed any opportunity he may have had in the future to usurp Brady as the 'goat'.

Pressure's on Kansas nqat.

Brady is already the GOAT. This will be his 10th Superbowl. He's won 6 and I wouldn't bet against him winning a 7th. Mahomes will soon not be as mobile as he now and he's going to have to change his game. Even though he is already an excellent passer. He also doesn't have Bill Belichick coaching him. And Andy Reid won't be around for that much longer. Rodgers is probably a better QB than both of them, he just hasn't had the tools and the coaching that they had/have. And I don't think anyone can match Brady's preparation, concentration and desire.

[MacAdder]

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I too used to enjoy the the American Football in the days of Dan Marino, John Riggins, Joe Theisman, Walter Payton... simply because it was sport on the TV!
Only 4 channels to choose from and shown on Sundays, from memory the competition being Songs of praise, Bullseye or Antiques Roadshow!

Spoilt for choice on sport these days and football plus the odd game of cricket I find is more than enough.
I don't feel the need to watch the American football but I suppose when it's your national sport and on the TV all the time, I'm sure you'd get into it.

The Superbowl is still a huge event and still worth watching though, even if i don't know any of the players.
I will record it and watch next day fast forwarding all the crap, of which there is a lot, in between.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The Baltimore Colts moved to Indianapolis
The Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore and became the Ravens
The Cleveland Browns are an expansion team
The Rams moved from LA to St Louis and then back to LA
The St Louis Cardinals (formerly of Chicago) moved to Phoenix and eventually changed their name to the Arizona Cardinals
The Raiders moved from Oakland to LA, back to Oakland, and then to Vegas
The Houston Oilers moved to Tennesee and became the Titans
The Houston Texans are an expansion team
The LA Chargers started in LA, moved to San Diego and then back to LA.

Thats just complete bollocks then isn't it , its even more about money than over here then

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I too used to enjoy the the American Football in the days of Dan Marino, John Riggins, Joe Theisman, Walter Payton... simply because it was sport on the TV!
Only 4 channels to choose from and shown on Sundays, from memory the competition being Songs of praise, Bullseye or Antiques Roadshow!

Spoilt for choice on sport these days and football plus the odd game of cricket I find is more than enough.
I don't feel the need to watch the American football but I suppose when it's your national sport and on the TV all the time, I'm sure you'd get into it.

The Superbowl is still a huge event and still worth watching though, even if i don't know any of the players.
I will record it and watch next day fast forwarding all the crap, of which there is a lot, in between.

Football , for all its faults is the worlds game

American football , like Australian rules football is country based

I prefer aussie rules to American football , those lads are tough !

[xsnaggle]

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I too used to enjoy the the American Football in the days of Dan Marino, John Riggins, Joe Theisman, Walter Payton... simply because it was sport on the TV!
Only 4 channels to choose from and shown on Sundays, from memory the competition being Songs of praise, Bullseye or Antiques Roadshow!

Spoilt for choice on sport these days and football plus the odd game of cricket I find is more than enough.
I don't feel the need to watch the American football but I suppose when it's your national sport and on the TV all the time, I'm sure you'd get into it.

The Superbowl is still a huge event and still worth watching though, even if i don't know any of the players.
I will record it and watch next day fast forwarding all the crap, of which there is a lot, in between.

I was watching the game live the night Theisman broke his leg. It was grusome. His shin bone was sticking out of his sock sideways and his team mates were trying to stop him from looking at it. It really was dreadful.

[MacAdder]

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I was watching the game live the night Theisman broke his leg. It was grusome. His shin bone was sticking out of his sock sideways and his team mates were trying to stop him from looking at it. It really was dreadful.

Wasn't it just.
First time I'd ever seen an injury like that, such a graphic view.
In fact I'm surprised that type of injury isn't a common occurrance in the game.
I suppose you QB knows the risks which is why you often see them scrambling just to get rid.

Did Theisman ever recover to play again?

[xsnaggle]

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Wasn't it just.
First time I'd ever seen an injury like that, such a graphic view.
In fact I'm surprised that type of injury isn't a common occurrance in the game.
I suppose you QB knows the risks which is why you often see them scrambling just to get rid.

Did Theisman ever recover to play again?

He recvered but retired and became a pundit. Very well respected man.

[MacAdder]

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He recvered but retired and became a pundit. Very well respected man.

:thumbup:

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I was watching the game live the night Theisman broke his leg. It was grusome. His shin bone was sticking out of his sock sideways and his team mates were trying to stop him from looking at it. It really was dreadful.

Jesus

[StraightOuttaCanton]

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Once the game gets you, you’re hooked. Only Football beats it now for me. NFL is a lot more complex than football... there are in my opinion so many more layers to it. It’s still not football though.

[blue lewj]

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Once the game gets you, you’re hooked. Only Football beats it now for me. NFL is a lot more complex than football... there are in my opinion so many more layers to it. It’s still not football though.

A very good sport to watch if you take time to try to understand it. Many can't be bothered though and I was like that for years but wish I had taken the time to look into the rules many years ago.

https://youtu.be/Ddwp1HyEFRE

Very basic video but it is a start and once you know what is actually happening it is very enjoyable.

As for those that have mentioned rugby. The Pro14 is up there with some of the worst top level competitions in pro sport. It is like watching paint dry. The quicker the Welsh 'regions' get into bed with the English clubs the better.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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Once the game gets you, you’re hooked. Only Football beats it now for me. NFL is a lot more complex than football... there are in my opinion so many more layers to it. It’s still not football though.

It's been described as "chess with muscles".

[Optimistic Nick]

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It's been described as "chess with muscles".

That is how I think of it: chess with elite athletes.

Its ability to generate drama is unparalleled (the best bits of test match cricket aside). In the last few years we had the Seahawks throwing away a second superbowl; the Pats crazy comeback from the dead; the mineapolis miracle which was absolutely amazing to see. Teams can be seemingly out of it, and yet find ways to win. The lead seems to change hands so much more often than it does in Football- it is just so good to watch when it is good (and it often is).

I also like that there are many and various ways to excel - just look at the different characteristics of the starting QBs in the Superbowl. And Brady is not the only "experienced" player out there either: the two QBs he beat on the way to the superbowl are Rogers (37) and Brees (42). I spend far more time watching NFL than football now. I got sky sports for the playoffs - I've not watched a single premier league game in that time. (I've suffered a few Cardiff games, but that is all.)

And these guys are supremely skilful: many of them could (and have) played at elite level in other sports, too. Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson are two that spring to mind. Murray was the 9th pick int the baseball draft, and then first in the NFL draft. That is incredible- I'm sure I am overlooking some, but it is hard to think of a modern era professional sportsman with that level of excellence in two sports.

THe otehr thing I love about NFL is the way the draft system does exactly teh opposite of money in football: it forces a level playing field.

Football is the best sport in the world, that is a matter of fact. It is so accessible, loved by so many and for good reason. I don't see how american football can really exist as a participator sport for many people: the infrastructure needed to have a game is surely a blocker. If I wanted to play (and I categorically do not, it looks terrifying) I've no idea how I'd even go about it. I've no idea if/how "pub leagues" work for NFL, but it seems unlikely. And therefore it is not even close to proper sports really. But at the elite level, I cannot think of a sport I would rather watch, with the possible exception of the very best bits of test match cricket. Football comes a long way behind any of that for me now.