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Sky's Championship form guide reminds us that we're on relegation form over the past eight games and over the past six games. There are only three teams on worse run of form than us if stretching that out further, the past ten games, or reducing it so to be over past four games.
Derby are in the top ten over each of these time periods and on play-off form in all but one.
Always liked Ipswich until I went there a several years ago and they were charging City supporters £35 to sit in a run down stand with a poor view and legroom unsuitable for Snow Whites helpers.
Since then, along with Sunderland, my curse has worked far more effectively than all these so called gypsy ones cast on various football clubs.
You said “if we were both going for promotion”. Well, for a start, towards the end of our last promotion season we were able pull crowds above Birmingham’s capacity. That’s not an opinion, that’s a fact.
Birmingham, much like Cardiff, have an average attendance that seriously fluctuates depending on the teams form. However, comparisons of figures of both teams, in both divisions in the last 10 years puts us ahead of them. They averaged just over 25000 in their last 2 seasons in the Prem. we averaged over 31,000.
In the last decade our average has been under 20,000 on only two occasions. Birmingham have only averaged over 20,000 on 3 occasions and one of those was 10 years ago in the PL.
They are not a big club. No bigger than Cardiff City and certainly NOT in the same bracket as the other clubs who are at the wrong end of the table this season such as Derby, Forest and Sheff We’d.
I wouldn’t even class Derby and Forest as big clubs anymore. You can only dine out on former success for so long.
Forest had some real glory yrs under Clough and Taylor. They arrived on the scene like a breath of fresh air, and at one time, boasted one of the best teams that has ever graced British football, but they faded away just as quickly as they arrived, and have been floating about in the back waters for yrs now.
Derby have had some real glory yrs as well, but like Forest, have drifted into the long grass.
In our last season in the Premier League we had the 11th highest average crowds despite struggling for results all season. Above clubs such as Southampton,Brighton,Palace and a couple of hundred behind a successful Leicester! We are one of the few club that would get 60k crowds if we were a top 6 team,I just wish a Billionaire could see our potential!
Fair play, that's a load of bollocks. The league is no respecter of whether you're an established name or not. Suppose we went down with Derby and Forest. Are you seriously telling me you'd back them before us for promotion based on how big a name they'd been historically, ignoring other things like available funds, the players at the club, youth players coming through etc? No point in all that, let's concede now as we're just little old Cardiff City (but not that little historically)....
Were you smoking that Rastafarian stuff last night?
Didnt Derby used to give out 10,000 kids tickets for free or very cheap to bolster attendance? Sure they did some scheme. Good idea really, future fans, buying stuff, more food sales etc...they must be gutted to see Leicester doing so well, a team that dropped into league 1 not so long ago like Southampton did also I think.....
We've had similar or higher average attendances than Birmingham for much of the past decade, that's what matters right now, not what both clubs were like in the 90s
Birmingham is massive, they should get far higher attendances than they do
There's also a fairly obvious reason our crowds weren't as high as they could be when Tan took over
Birmingham is massive, more people live in Birmingham metropolitan area than live in the whole of Wales
Population: Cardiff - 366,903. Birmingham - 1,141,816
Urban population: Cardiff - 479,000. Birmingham - 2,897,303
Metro populations: Cardiff - 1,097,000. Birmingham - 4,332,629
Incomparable
A good mate of mine who moved from Risca to Ipswich over 30 years ago rang me yesterday and said, "Why the hell have Cardiff appointed Mick McCarthy as their manager ?" He's not a big football fan but he knows that MM was an incredibly unpopular manager in his time with them. I tried to justify the board's thinking in appointing him but it was a hard sell.
And yes in their relatively short league history Ipswich have done exceedingly well. Never been a club I could take a dislike to either.
If you’re serious about big Clubs
Sheffield W., Stoke City, Nottm. F, Middlesbrough, Cardiff City, Derby County, Norwich City, Birmingham City, Blackburn, Huddersfield, Preston, then the rest.
Just take the L Sludge
Birmingham City 20th biggest club in all time attendances
Cardiff City 34th
No, I'm really not. The city of Birmingham is home to over 1m people, about three times more than Cardiff. You're the one who brought in the whole "surrounding area" stuff which is why I brought in the urban and metro populations which showed how much bigger Birmingham's is. The two cities aren't comparable at all.
Are you really trying to suggest that Birmingham and Cardiff are similar cities?