Songs Of Praise

[pomeroy]

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I agree apart from one N or two. Originally you mentioned annism, which TBG picked up on

Sorry I got carried away. It is Annisism. In this respect I am intrigued as to what happened to the principal acolyte Carl or “ The fans favourite “. I hope he has not become Annisism’s Judas Iscariot.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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People have talked about Jesus saying this or that and according to the Bible and it says here etc

But thats nothing

There is evidence of Greek civilizations

Of the Egyptians

There is evidence everywhere of the romans in Britain

But apart from this book can a Christian provide evidence that God exists

Not I know , that's all what matters etc

Evidence

For example if I have a headache I go to the chemist and he or she says I suggest paracetamol , an hour later , after a rest , my headache has gone

My minor aches and pains , paracetamol is a scientifically , evepidence based treatment , based on fact ......based on evidence

So if someone can provide evidence of what essentially has no more basis of reality that flying teapots then great , I will be the first down the church to pray forgiveness for my sins

I am not interested in chapter 17 of the bible , thats not fact or evidence

[Wash DC Blue]

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People have talked about Jesus saying this or that and according to the Bible and it says here etc

But thats nothing

There is evidence of Greek civilizations

Of the Egyptians

There is evidence everywhere of the romans in Britain

But apart from this book can a Christian provide evidence that God exists

Not I know , that's all what matters etc

Evidence

For example if I have a headache I go to the chemist and he or she says I suggest paracetamol , an hour later , after a rest , my headache has gone

My minor aches and pains , paracetamol is a scientifically , evepidence based treatment , based on fact ......based on evidence

So if someone can provide evidence of what essentially has no more basis of reality that flying teapots then great , I will be the first down the church to pray forgiveness for my sins

I am not interested in chapter 17 of the bible , thats not fact or evidence

With respect Sludge, if solid evidence was provided...your precedence would be to go ad hominem all guns blazing.

Anyway, anyone willing to be as robust in their atheistic convictions regarding Islam as they are to Christianity?

Etiez-vous Charlie?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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With respect Sludge, if solid evidence was provided...your precedence would be to go ad hominem all guns blazing.

Anyway, anyone willing to be as robust in their atheistic convictions regarding Islam as they are to Christianity?

Etiez-vous Charlie?

There's a bloke over the road who regularly collects money and food and clothing donations to give to the poor and homeless , which his church distributes . He is a massive Christian.

Hes a decent , kind guy and I always pop over with food and stuff . I am also a decent and kind guy but I am not a Christian.

I think people who think God is one big fairy tale can be as kind and as decent , if not more so , than Christians and in many cases more so that the Christians

This bloke is a nice bloke but several times he's invited me to his church and also has sent me links to the alpha course which in case you dont know is quite a creepy way of converting and brainwashing people into Christianity. I don't think he quite understands it but I know the score .

I have often told him there may well be a god but I want proof before I spend Sunday morning in a church . I have asked him for evidence that worshipping God, Jesus etc and repenting my sins will be worth my while but all he does is avoid the question and quote stuff from the bible at me . He may as well read a swansea city programme from 1976 to me .

Like all other Christians he will only convert the poor , uneducated and vulnerable . Its not coincidence that around 96 percent of people who are scientists or have a scientific learning have no faith in God.

As for criticising all religion , including Islam , I do not agree with all he says but the work of Sam Harris , particularly letters to a Christian nation is an enlightening read . Of all the Western countries America is the one most tainted and influenced by the so called word of God. Its worrying in my view .

[Wash DC Blue]

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There's a bloke over the road who regularly collects money and food and clothing donations to give to the poor and homeless , which his church distributes . He is a massive Christian.

Hes a decent , kind guy and I always pop over with food and stuff . I am also a decent and kind guy but I am not a Christian.

I think people who think God is one big fairy tale can be as kind and as decent , if not more so , than Christians and in many cases more so that the Christians

This bloke is a nice bloke but several times he's invited me to his church and also has sent me links to the alpha course which in case you dont know is quite a creepy way of converting and brainwashing people into Christianity. I don't think he quite understands it but I know the score .

I have often told him there may well be a god but I want proof before I spend Sunday morning in a church . I have asked him for evidence that worshipping God, Jesus etc and repenting my sins will be worth my while but all he does is avoid the question and quote stuff from the bible at me . He may as well read a swansea city programme from 1976 to me .

Like all other Christians he will only convert the poor , uneducated and vulnerable . Its not coincidence that around 96 percent of people who are scientists or have a scientific learning have no faith in God.

As for criticising all religion , including Islam , I do not agree with all he says but the work of Sam Harris , particularly letters to a Christian nation is an enlightening read . Of all the Western countries America is the one most tainted and influenced by the so called word of God. Its worrying in my view .

Quite a response....ultimately and predictably having a bit of a pop at America in lieu of anything constructive or relevant.

Would you be brave enough to wear a metal shirt of one of your favorite bands if it had a cartoon of the most prevalent Islamic prophet on it?

[Croesy Blue]

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Why are the more religious members of this board also the more right wing members of this board? Seems a complete disconnect between the two ideologies to me.

I know a lot of the more "religious nuts" heavily lean right because of abortion but to me a decent and intelligent religious person could never lean to the right because it's so far removed from the religious teachings they believe so ardently.

[life on mars]

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Gods Covid intervention

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55409693

So proof he is watching

And yes he's right wing leaning .

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Quite a response....ultimately and predictably having a bit of a pop at America in lieu of anything constructive or relevant.

Would you be brave enough to wear a metal shirt of one of your favorite bands if it had a cartoon of the most prevalent Islamic prophet on it?

Its entirely constructive and relevant which is probably why you don't like it . The USA is fundamentally anti Islamic yet has some of the most extreme Christians residing on its land .

As for wearing a metal shirt with a cartoon of Mohammed on it , I don't have anything to do with metal bands that have that sort of merchandise . I never seen it . And I have never seen any anti Christian t shirts either. And as I have said before I think religion is daft but I respect the right of people to believe in it , I just want proof that God exists .

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Why are the more religious members of this board also the more right wing members of this board? Seems a complete disconnect between the two ideologies to me.

I know a lot of the more "religious nuts" heavily lean right because of abortion but to me a decent and intelligent religious person could never lean to the right because it's so far removed from the religious teachings they believe so ardently.

Quite .

Loads of tories vote for a government that slashes aid to the poor yet go to church every Sunday.

Guilt .

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Gods Covid intervention

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55409693

So proof he is watching

And yes he's right wing leaning .

People waiting for some old bloke to tell them its ok to get jabbed

Various faith communities around the world ditto

Millions of people make the journey to the Vatican, millions to mecca

I respect the right of them to do it but I think they are deluded

[Croesy Blue]

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Quite .

Loads of tories vote for a government that slashes aid to the poor yet go to church every Sunday.

Guilt .

That's what I don't understand, it must take a lot of cognitive disonance to be able to reason with that.

Also the same people who seem to be anti immigration/refugee too, very strange.

[Croesy Blue]

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Gods Covid intervention

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55409693

So proof he is watching

And yes he's right wing leaning .

How can you be religious but such a bigot? How does that line up in your head?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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That's what I don't understand, it must take a lot of cognitive disonance to be able to reason with that.

Also the same people who seem to be anti immigration/refugee too, very strange.

we don't want immigration and people fleeing persecution over here thank you very much .......but on Sunday the vicar is going to tell us how we should love everybody and be good samaritans and help others and we will all sing songs about the Lord and how we should be good and follow Jesus

But we are going to vote for a party that believes in the individual , not society and that charity begins at home 🙄

A Christian AND a Tory ? I am sorry the computer says no

Because IF the bible is to be believed then surely Jesus was an all round good bloke , kind , caring , fed the poor and respected others and forgave them if they did wrong ?

He was clearly a Liberal or a socialist , if he existed

[lisvaneblue]

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we don't want immigration and people fleeing persecution over here thank you very much .......but on Sunday the vicar is going to tell us how we should love everybody and be good samaritans and help others and we will all sing songs about the Lord and how we should be good and follow Jesus

But we are going to vote for a party that believes in the individual , not society and that charity begins at home ��

A Christian AND a Tory ? I am sorry the computer says no

Because IF the bible is to be believed then surely Jesus was an all round good bloke , kind , caring , fed the poor and respected others and forgave them if they did wrong ?

He was clearly a Liberal or a socialist , if he existed

You really are a muddled thinker Sludge. So you can't be a Christian and a Tory you say? Where's the evidence

Jesus was a good bloke you say, so you know what we did to him? We nailed him to a tree, speared his stomach and left him to die.

You trust paracetamol because it cures your headache you say. If I explained the pharmacological action of the drug at cellular level you'd say I was talking a lot of unbelievable nonsense, just like you say about the bible.

If you are going to judge something you need to consider the evidence from both sides in an unbiased way.

And do you think the NASA rover has landed on Mars or is it just a big con, because all the video evidence could be faked? Or do you have faith in the people at NASA that what they are saying is true

[Croesy Blue]

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You trust paracetamol because it cures your headache you say. If I explained the pharmacological action of the drug at cellular level you'd say I was talking a lot of unbelievable nonsense, just like you say about the bible.

This is complete bollocks there's genuine evidence for how this works ffs.

Jesus was a good bloke you say, so you know what we did to him? We nailed him to a tree, speared his stomach and left him to die.

We?

And do you think the NASA rover has landed on Mars or is it just a big con, because all the video evidence could be faked?

Again genuine evidence of this exists

You really are a muddled thinker Sludge. So you can't be a Christian and a Tory you say? Where's the evidence

You can be but based on the teachings of the bible it doesn't make any sense unless you have a complete cognitive disconnect. TBH if you are equating evidence for the existance for god with evidence for the mars rover/cell microbiology I can see how you can manage that disconnect.