Cardiff tower plan for demolished Guildford Crescent venues

[LeningradCowboy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56170991

Developers want to build a 29-storey apartment block on the controversial city centre site where a music venue and restaurants once stood.

[City123]

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Just what Cardiff needs, more flats :facepalm:

[goats]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56170991

Developers want to build a 29-storey apartment block on the controversial city centre site where a music venue and restaurants once stood.

Just 29 floors....they are about to open up the canal on Churchill way too. So many houses and flats being built, the brains brewery site is huge too

[Kind of Blue]

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Hadn’t realised Gwdihw was no more, that’s a shame.

[xsnaggle]

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Tsk tsk. Deary me! apartments not flats mate! Apartments!!!!!

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Cardiff tower plan for demolished Guildford Crescent venues

Just what Cardiff needs, more flats :facepalm:

It probably does.

Cities thrive on high density highly connected places

I think they could have done better here though and will be a shame

[Cleve van Leef]

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Worked there in one of those buildings from 1963-1965, J.K. White Motor Factors. Memories of my youth.

[Majorblue]

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Why are developers allowed to rip the heart of city centres and replace them with these soulless and mostly inappropriate buildings? One of Cardiff’s charms was the mix of housing/ retail stock but that is slowly being eroded.
I accept that change is natural as a city expands but just look at the monstrosities that have been put up in recent years.

[blue matt]

Re: Cardiff tower plan for demolished Guildford Crescent venues

Why are developers allowed to rip the heart of city centres and replace them with these soulless and mostly inappropriate buildings? One of Cardiff’s charms was the mix of housing/ retail stock but that is slowly being eroded.
I accept that change is natural as a city expands but just look at the monstrosities that have been put up in recent years.

cash, the developer might build 20 social houses and a community centre somewhere as a trade-off

[City123]

Re: Cardiff tower plan for demolished Guildford Crescent venues

It probably does.

Cities thrive on high density highly connected places

I think they could have done better here though and will be a shame

What's the point of a city with nothing in it? Developers are hell bent on ripping any kind of originality out of the city to be replaced by soulless identikit blocks, Cardiff Council won't be happy until Cardiff is one long string of apartment blocks and chain restaurants

[Rjk]

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If the apartments are of good quality and a decent size, and there is consideration for parking then I don't object to that at all.

More height and more density in the centre will mean more venues and restaurants ultimately not less.
There are too many low quality buildings and tiny pokey apartments already - if we insisted on higher quality standards and larger living spaces then it would be a benefit for years to come.

Interesting tht development in that area makes redevelopment of the prison perhaps more likely as well. Cardiff prison is old, overcrowded and occupies what is presumably some of the most valuable land in the City.
A more modern facility, more suitable to encouraging rehabilitation could be built away from the city on cheaper land and the prision site redeveloped, opening up the bck of queen street station - and helping to link town and the bay together more.
I'm sure someone will do it eventually

[cardiff55]

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Does anyone remember CentrePlan 70. It was a futuristic look at Cardiff city centre, with plans for what the city would look like when it had been re developed.
We have had St David's , St David's 2, The Capitol Centre (which is now basically empty, and was the result of demolishing the Capitol Theatre), the other centre that was on Queen Street which was soon redeveloped again. Two cinemas close in Queen Street, Lots of pubs gone too. And now loads of flats, where the old AA Building is, David Morgan, and those monstrous tower blocks for students. And the loss of the bus station.

I think its called progress, nothing to do with cash of course.

[goats]

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If the apartments are of good quality and a decent size, and there is consideration for parking then I don't object to that at all.

More height and more density in the centre will mean more venues and restaurants ultimately not less.
There are too many low quality buildings and tiny pokey apartments already - if we insisted on higher quality standards and larger living spaces then it would be a benefit for years to come.

Interesting tht development in that area makes redevelopment of the prison perhaps more likely as well. Cardiff prison is old, overcrowded and occupies what is presumably some of the most valuable land in the City.
A more modern facility, more suitable to encouraging rehabilitation could be built away from the city on cheaper land and the prision site redeveloped, opening up the bck of queen street station - and helping to link town and the bay together more.
I'm sure someone will do it eventually

Reckon that Rapport family who own the land on Guildford Crescent had this in mind for years, which is why they panicked and tried to demolish everything on it as soon as they got a whiff of it being a conservation area etc.....can’t quite work out how a shiny block 29 stories high can incorporate the current facade but you never know. Be lucky if the owners get 1 parking spot each.
Nice idea with the prison, not many places will want that springing up next to them mind wherever they decide to move it?

[J R Hartley]

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Why are they called "flats" when they usually anything but flat?

[xsnaggle]

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What's the point of a city with nothing in it? Developers are hell bent on ripping any kind of originality out of the city to be replaced by soulless identikit blocks, Cardiff Council won't be happy until Cardiff is one long string of apartment blocks and chain restaurants

The plan is that if they can move everyone in to the centre they won't have to do anything about the miserable public transport they laughingly call a 'service' !