The "horrible to play" team becomes horrible to watch for ninety minutes.

[the other bob wilson]

Cardiff City well below par, but grind out draw to extend their unbeaten run to nine.

https://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

[Rjk]

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even this plot is horrible to look at

[surge]

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Going to be really interesting to see if changes are made for Derby - on form they're at least a top seven side over past four, eight and ten games and top ten over past six - or whether MM tries to make it through to the Huddersfield game. At the moment I'd be looking to rest Moore against Derby and Stoke knowing he probably has two important games in March with Wales.

FAO Will Vaulks, this is why Cardiff need to be more than an ugly side to play against.

[WJ99mobile]

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Is anyone surprised that game become a war of attrition?

I predicted 0-0 so wasn’t even as optimistic as the final result

[Former Labour leader]

Re: The "horrible to play" team becomes horrible to watch for ninety minutes.

Is anyone surprised that game become a war of attrition?

I predicted 0-0 so wasn’t even as optimistic as the final result

And I said we'd need to score early and hope to hang on. We almost did.

[the other bob wilson]

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even this plot is horrible to look at

0.3 looks a very low xg figure even to this non expert, but then a bit more thought about our total lack of a goal threat in the second half , our very soft goal and just one other goal attempt tells you that, actually, it's higher than might have been expected.

[the other bob wilson]

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Going to be really interesting to see if changes are made for Derby - on form they're at least a top seven side over past four, eight and ten games and top ten over past six - or whether MM tries to make it through to the Huddersfield game. At the moment I'd be looking to rest Moore against Derby and Stoke knowing he probably has two important games in March with Wales.

FAO Will Vaulks, this is why Cardiff need to be more than an ugly side to play against.

I think we may see changes in attack and midfield for Derby, but I can't see Moore being rested. If Watters wasn't injured yesterday, his absence from the squad is a concern considering the amount we stand to pay for him - it looks like Mark Harris is our second choice striker at the moment and nearly all of his first team experience has come alongside a target man like Moore or Glatzel. I've seen Harris do a pretty good job as a lone striker for the Under 23s, but that's a bit different to what would be expected of him on Tuesday. Also, I'm fairly sure that Wales' games at the end of next month will not be a factor in Mick McCarthy's team selection in the weeks leading up to the international break.

[Former Labour leader]

Re: The "horrible to play" team becomes horrible to watch for ninety minutes.

Going to be really interesting to see if changes are made for Derby - on form they're at least a top seven side over past four, eight and ten games and top ten over past six - or whether MM tries to make it through to the Huddersfield game. At the moment I'd be looking to rest Moore against Derby and Stoke knowing he probably has two important games in March with Wales.

FAO Will Vaulks, this is why Cardiff need to be more than an ugly side to play against.

We desperately need changes, with Moore being top of the list. Last game before Wales is......you've guessed it, Swansea! No rest for him that day.
My suggested team v an improved Derby:
Phillips
Ng
Bagan
Morrison
Nelson
Flint
Ralls
Vaulks
Ojo
Wilson
Harris

[Stanmore Bluebird]

Re: The "horrible to play" team becomes horrible to watch for ninety minutes.

Going to be really interesting to see if changes are made for Derby - on form they're at least a top seven side over past four, eight and ten games and top ten over past six - or whether MM tries to make it through to the Huddersfield game. At the moment I'd be looking to rest Moore against Derby and Stoke knowing he probably has two important games in March with Wales.

FAO Will Vaulks, this is why Cardiff need to be more than an ugly side to play against.

What has Wales got to do with the City. This is a CCFC forum. The City over Wales any day (though we still want Wales to be successful- but not at the expense of the City).

[the other bob wilson]

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Further to what I said about Watters, Mick McCarthy said after yesterday's match that he and Ciaron Brown need to play ninety minutes and he wants to see them play a whole game, so they are both going to play for the Under 23s - our manager says the Development side are playing tomorrow and I see that it has now been changed to a 2 o clock kick off tomorrow as opposed to the normal Tuesday lunchtime start on the club website.

[PontBlue]

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I think we may see changes in attack and midfield for Derby, but I can't see Moore being rested. If Watters wasn't injured yesterday, his absence from the squad is a concern considering the amount we stand to pay for him - it looks like Mark Harris is our second choice striker at the moment and nearly all of his first team experience has come alongside a target man like Moore or Glatzel. I've seen Harris do a pretty good job as a lone striker for the Under 23s, but that's a bit different to what would be expected of him on Tuesday. Also, I'm fairly sure that Wales' games at the end of next month will not be a factor in Mick McCarthy's team selection in the weeks leading up to the international break.

Watters is looking like a bad buy as we already had Harris on the books. We needed another player like Moore. I would not be surprised to see us move for Ikpeazu at Wycombe as a backup in the summer.

[Former Labour leader]

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Watters is looking like a bad buy as we already had Harris on the books. We needed another player like Moore. I would not be surprised to see us move for Ikpeazu at Wycombe as a backup in the summer.

If only that Cameron Jerome deal had come off.

[LeningradCowboy]

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We've played 7 games in the last 22 days. This was our second away trip in 3 days and we were playing a team that had an extra day of rest since their last game. Perhaps I'm going soft, but I'm willing to give our players a pass on this occasion.

[tforturton]

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It wasn't a very pretty game to watch, and I think if it hadn't been City, I'd have switched it off halfway through. But a point away is a point away, and Middlesbrough are a team around us in the table, so we should have expected a tough game. Warnock knows exactly how to combat a team like us, and to be fair, he did a good job.
As for us, whereas I accept that tiredness is starting to creep in, surely this applies to all teams in the Championship? It's not like anyone else is getting a break. Our problem is that the guys on the subs bench are not at the same level as the first team. Okay, that's why they're subs, I guess, but when we bring on a player, it always seems to weaken the side, rather than improve it, or at least keep things steady.
Bacuna and Ojo are not as effective as Wilson and Murphy. They don't seem as quick, as strong, or as in-tune with what is expected of them. It's like they didn't get the message at training. We went from being a pressing, threatening side, to a let-them-have-the-ball, and we'll just defend, for the rest of the game. A big mistake.
And for all the praise Ralls gets on here, I just can't see it. He takes a good penalty, but apart from that he's pretty damn average. I thought we'd ditched him for good, but I can see him creeping back in.
Anyway, I think Warnock did a Warnock on us yesterday, and so perhaps we should be happy with a point.

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Going back in time a bit but interesting discussions about different names featured in this thread, and some not, I haven't yet seen posted on this board.

MM at Cardiff are discussed here with our bit finishing at 4 minute mark: https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...-ones-to-watch

Perry NG from 1:35 and Gavin Whyte from 8:00 spoken about here:

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12196050/efl-transfer-window-talent-watch

Max Watters from 11:00 here: https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...-ones-to-watch