The Budget

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Why do you ask such stupid questions when it is quite obvious to a reasonable person that I was referring to advice given by these 'experts' in general. Clearly the average man doesn't refer to scientists on a regular basis.
I was referring to the doctors and scientists that the BBC and other media outlets wheel out whenever something good or bad happens. As I said, they are always ready to pour doom and gloom on any good news and make any bad news look as bad as they can. When some doctor in a provincial hospital or a scientist that 'was on the SAGE committee but isn't any more' and such like are trollied out I always wonder how many people the media outlet in question spoke to before they found one who was prepared to voice the opinion they wanted to air.
Which scientists do you refer to?

I was just referring to a full sentence you wrote. Thanks for speaking up on behalf of reasonable persons and for calling my questions stupid though.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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It was a fair question I thought. If you dismiss advice given by scientists and doctors who do you rely on for accurate information?

Stupid question

[The Bloop]

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The answer is you scrap the nuclear deterrent

And also you don't give the nurses on 25k a ten percent pay rise which is plain daft , you give them a 2 or 3 percent pay rise which is easily possible even 8n the current economic circumstances

But the tories want to scrap the NHS , have never liked it and don't give two shifts about the people who work saving lives , never have , never will

But the Chief exec of the RCN says they deserve 12.5% rise. Your 3% isnt going to satisfy them.

[xsnaggle]

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I was just referring to a full sentence you wrote. Thanks for speaking up on behalf of reasonable persons and for calling my questions stupid though.

you and I both know you were implying that I speak directly to scientists about things whereas you actually knew quite well what I meant in my post. That is why it was a stupid question.

[Eric Cartman]

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This is a long thread for a 'kick the can down the road' budget. At least it settles the age old CCMB question, 'was austerity a political choice?', undoubtedly.

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This is a long thread for a 'kick the can down the road' budget. At least it settles the age old CCMB question, 'was austerity a political choice?', undoubtedly.

I don't think there as ever a question about whether it was political or not. The questions are was it the right thing to do and did it work? The Labour party clearly would not have opted for that route.
But as with so many things, like the way this pandemic is being dealt with, its something we will never know unfortunately.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Sludge Factory, so help me understand. My father who worked within the NHS as a biomedical scientist, my mother who made assistant director of nursing, my sister who is presently a nurse, my aunties who were an audiologist and nursing receptionist (and are both married to ENT consultants), and my grandmother who was a nurse all vote for a party who doesn’t give a shit about them? Give your head a wobble and stop talking with your Labour blinkers. Trotting out party politics and vitriol makes you look like a halfwit.

Hardly anyone who works in the NHS votes Conservative

But you have five in your family

Quite incredible , almost unbelievable really

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Wow your family has really added wonderful value to our society. Your right its free society and you shouldn't be judged by your political choices there's good in each party and it doesn't make you evil if you chose between one or the other .

I think its cobblers , hardly anyone in the NHS votes tory

This bloke has found five

Naa

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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YouGov poll after budget has with a 13-point lead over Labour.

""Their budget was the most popular in a decade, with 55 per cent of people describing it as “fair”""

but you are not , repeat not , a tory

I just needed to make that clear

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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But the Chief exec of the RCN says they deserve 12.5% rise. Your 3% isnt going to satisfy them.

well I don't agree with her

But 1 percent is taking the piss

Same old tories

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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YouGov poll after budget has with a 13-point lead over Labour.

""Their budget was the most popular in a decade, with 55 per cent of people describing it as “fair”""

The joy of government is that the people are stupid .......

The old twat was right ✅

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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The joy of government is that the people are stupid .......

The old twat was right ✅

There we are then, we're all stupid. Let's move on to the football..

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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There we are then, we're all stupid. Let's move on to the football..

people who vote tory are either stupid or capitalists

Its as basic as that really

The country is being run by a liar , and the budget , given to us by a hedge fund chancer is full of holes

As you were

This country is shooting itself in the foot

But there you go , onto the football

[Baloo]

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I agree with that but it isn't what I said. I was about the scientists that come on news programmes and are quoted in newspapers. As I sai I always wonder how many the journalists had to ask before they got one who was prepared to say what they wanted people to hear. If you directly ask a specialist a question regarding his speciality they of course you would expect an answer you could rely on. But that wasn't the point.

OK, as long as you're sure what you're describing isn't just common old confirmation bias.

[Eric Cartman]

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I don't think there as ever a question about whether it was political or not. The questions are was it the right thing to do and did it work? The Labour party clearly would not have opted for that route.
But as with so many things, like the way this pandemic is being dealt with, its something we will never know unfortunately.

That doesn't make any sense if it was 'the right thing to do' then we aren't talking about a choice made due to ideology. Austerity was justified because of a deficit and its affect on debt, both are astronomical now and Sunak is choosing not to take such strident action (or any at all). I agree with their assessment now, but it bets the question what on earth were they thinking with from 2010-Boris

As for whether Austerity worked, they missed almost every target they set themselves to lower the deficit and ultimately debt.