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    I just came across this in The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/football...bhorrent-abuse

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    Fully behind them but I suppose opens up the debate of where the line is.

    People that messaged Conor Roberts directly to jump off a bridge is totally unacceptable but is it acceptable to directly say they played rubbish? What about in open discussion on Twitter?

    Fans want to interact with players that they pay a lot of money to watch each week and then you got Gary Neville criticising that someone’s remotely managing their accounts.

    It’s a tricky situation and I certainly wouldn’t like to deal with the abuse that footballers do

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      Jacks have 4m followers across all employees and platforms according to Sky Sports News.

      Bet that's a lot more than ours.

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        Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
        Fully behind them but I suppose opens up the debate of where the line is.

        People that messaged Conor Roberts directly to jump off a bridge is totally unacceptable but is it acceptable to directly say they played rubbish? What about in open discussion on Twitter?

        Fans want to interact with players that they pay a lot of money to watch each week and then you got Gary Neville criticising that someone’s remotely managing their accounts.

        It’s a tricky situation and I certainly wouldn’t like to deal with the abuse that footballers do
        Are they fans or just racist bots from all over the world. Anyone can set up as many Twitter accounts that they want. Probably the same accounts randomly racially attacking anyone in the public eye that’s not white.

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          Originally posted by alan_corneli View Post
          Jacks have 4m followers across all employees and platforms according to Sky Sports News.

          Bet that's a lot more than ours.
          That stems from their PL days, no way do that have that interest now. They’d be lucky to get 12k in the ground

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          • #6
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            Think there is a difference between saying a player played rubbish and saying a player is sh*t or competing to see who can have the most hyperbolic negative reaction to a player's name (pre-game) and performance (post-game) with the latter more about seeking attention rather than just wanting interaction with players. Arguably, even the latter could be just about acceptable but really it is not if it includes trying to ensure the player can see the comments.

            Conversation typically moves onto social media requiring identification so perhaps time to share this thread: https://twitter.com/MariCLewis/statu...24230692192264

            Twitter should treat racism like copyright abuses. They get on that v quickly. They have the capacity.

            Making marginalized people who rely on anonymity pay for racists using the cloak of anonymity knowing this website doesn’t punish racism is just further oppression. **** that.

            I tweet this as I’m disappointed in my local supporters group, who seem to “get” Liverpool only to a certain point — we need to realize that the framed enemies here (anonymous racists) are allowed to act not bc they’re anonymous but because Twitter doesn’t care about racism.

            I cannot emphasize enough that racist bullies will always exist, but right now they also exist as verified accounts. Those accounts embolden others. These are two related problems.

            Also my local Liverpool group have a lot of care rn when it’s Liverpool supporters online being racist but have had nothing to say across a week of big, big racism stories in, say, La Liga. Y’all don’t care about racism, you care about the optics of the club & can **** off xoxo

            People who use anonymity to exist and speak matter in conversations I have everyday (!) and their well-being matters (!!); creating an online environment where trans people, as an important example, can’t safely exist isnt “progressive” or anti-racist, you idiots; also, stop.

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              Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
              Fully behind them but I suppose opens up the debate of where the line is.

              People that messaged Conor Roberts directly to jump off a bridge is totally unacceptable but is it acceptable to directly say they played rubbish? What about in open discussion on Twitter?

              Fans want to interact with players that they pay a lot of money to watch each week and then you got Gary Neville criticising that someone’s remotely managing their accounts.

              It’s a tricky situation and I certainly wouldn’t like to deal with the abuse that footballers do
              Is it a tricky situation? If someone is being a **** ban them. You’re not allowed to be a **** in the street why should it be allowed if it’s behind a keyboard ?

              There seems to be a weird bubble round football where you’re allowed to be a complete anti social **** just because you’ve bought a ticket under the guise of shit banter.

              Also what kind of ****ing empty headed loser watches their team lose a football match and then logs on to directly call someone shit and tag them.

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              • #8
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                Just seen this on sky sports news and for a second the jacks had my full respect, then it was reported that they were only coming off social media for a week....that's pathetic. I stopped drinking 3 times in one day once and like this it didn't work.

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                  Originally posted by Whisperer View Post
                  Just seen this on sky sports news and for a second the jacks had my full respect, then it was reported that they were only coming off social media for a week....that's pathetic. I stopped drinking 3 times in one day once and like this it didn't work.
                  What's genuinely pathetic is your attempt at an analogy.

                  The Jacks and their players are actually doing something about the situation instead of just complaining about it. Good on them. If the biggest clubs in the world followed Swansea's lead we might finally begin to see some changes.

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                  • #10
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                    Birmingham have joined now.

                    Perhaps footballers as a community should find a different behaviour away from these platforms if they contain such appalling content , I guess they knew that these environments existed before joining.

                    One of the Swansea lads suggested a more robust sign up procedure giving official names and addresses so one could report the hatred more effectively, the weakness of these platforms is the anonymity they provide for faceless cowards .

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                      What's genuinely pathetic is your attempt at an analogy.

                      The Jacks and their players are actually doing something about the situation instead of just complaining about it. Good on them. If the biggest clubs in the world followed Swansea's lead we might finally begin to see some changes.
                      Quite right. An end to all those banal self-obsessed profiles

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                      • #12
                        Re: Swansea City Boycott Social Media

                        Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                        What's genuinely pathetic is your attempt at an analogy.

                        The Jacks and their players are actually doing something about the situation instead of just complaining about it. Good on them. If the biggest clubs in the world followed Swansea's lead we might finally begin to see some changes.
                        Doing something about it, no they’re not it’s a really shallow gesture maybe even virtue signaling. At least Theri Henry as come off it totally.

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                          Originally posted by Whisperer View Post
                          Doing something about it, no they’re not it’s a really shallow gesture maybe even virtue signaling.
                          So boycotting social media for a week isn't doing something?

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                            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                            So boycotting social media for a week isn't doing something?
                            Not really. It’s like one of your flounces. Doesn’t last long and achieves nothing.

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                              Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                              Not really. It’s like one of your flounces. Doesn’t last long and achieves nothing.
                              Does it perhaps bring some more publicity to an issue that very definitely needs addressing?

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