When fans are back would a ban on them playing at Anfield for a few European ties be appropriate? Both games in the group stages played at their opponents grounds. Shocking behaviour.
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A minutes silence tonight for the anniversary of Hillsborough, yet still a few couldn’t refrain from attacking the Real Madrid team bus today.
Always the victims, some always lacking class.
When fans are back would a ban on them playing at Anfield for a few European ties be appropriate? Both games in the group stages played at their opponents grounds. Shocking behaviour.
Didn’t Liverpool fans storm the gate (without tickets) into an already overcrowded end causing a crush of their own fans?
They cannot accepted any blame.
Ah well. Karma can be sweet!
I was talking to a Sheffield Wednesay fan who was at the match, last time we played them away. He put the blame squarely on drunken Liverpool fans. Yes, the police made a bad response to a situation, made matters worse by lying about it, but no way are the Liverpool fans blameless. Let's not forget Heysel either.
The Hillsborough incident has been discussed many times on here over the yrs.The blame has been squarely levelled at the police in charge that day, especially Duckenfield.
The lying and cover ups by the police were disgraceful. Some of the accusations in the Sun were also disgraceful.
That said, i’ve never heard any Liverpool fans put their hands up and admit many entered without tickets when the gates were opened.
Any supporters of any team would have done the same given the opportunity, but never the less it was a contributing factor.
Also, imo, the hooligan element around at the time have the most amount of blood on their hands. If the fences weren’t up, not a single fan would have perished.
For Hillsborough i'm sure some Liverpool fans were drunk, some probably tried to get in without tickets, that would be the same most Saturdays at most grounds.
Police control of the situation, safety planning, stadium regs all far more culpable.
What some chavs attacking a bus 30 years later have to do with innocent fans getting crushed trying to watch the football has to do with anything I don't know.
As the Authority supposed to be managing the crowd at the game, anything that went wrong and resulted in loss of life is bound to land at the door of the Police - which it has done so. That doesn't alter the fact that millions have seen the footage of the Liverpool fans surging towards the gates just before KO. I wonder if it were Millwall or City fans back then, would the eventual outcome/enquiry been the same ?
If we were in a major European final , there had been disturbances all day between us and say juventus fans and in the pen next to us juventus fans were giving Cardiff fans a kicking then as sure as night follows day Cardiff fans would have ripped down poorly made fencing to get stuck into the Italian fans
What happened after that was down to a crap old stadium
Although quite rightly Liverpool fans involved in those disturbances were put before the courts and found guilty
Whilst people can argue about Hillsborough till they are red in the face the fact is duckenfield lied
I personally failed to see the point of sending the man to prison but that was irrelevant as he was I believe found not guilty of manslaughter
So the only person , I think , to be charged and put on trial for this was him
No Liverpool fans were charged with manslaughter which given that many people think it was their fault , seems odd
I wouldn't have wanted to be a copper on duty that day , police horses were being lifted up by the strength of the crowd , it must have been horrific
Liverpool fans have asked for justice for the 96 , they have had their day in court
I am still amazed that local idiots threw stones at the bus but we have plenty of those too
Some right idiots in this thread fair play.