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Newcastle? Are you including places such as Cramlington, Whitley Bay, North Shields, Blyth, Seaton Delaval, Seaton Burn etc? All not in Newcastle but in the Newcastle area as much as Barry, Treforest, Pontypridd, Caerphilly etc are in the Cardiff area. Driving across the Newcastle city area both west to east and north to south is certainly a much quicker drive than the Cardiff equivalent.
tyneside is very much an urban sprawl , Newcastle merges into gateshead, into South shields etc
There is no 12 mile gap between Newcastle and its outer urban areas like there is between cardiff and pontypridd or the 8 miles between Cardiff and Barry
Thats why the area has a metro system , its a big urban area
Cardiff Isn't
Cardiff has plenty of population close by and its a bigger city than Newcastle but its not a metropolitan area in the same way tyneside is
Hope that makes sense
It can merge wherever it likes but boundaries are boundaries, same as countries have borders. Different counties, different councils, different MPs, different bin men Mind you, you can nigh on drive through a built up area now through from Cardiff to Pontypridd, up Llantrisant Rd, turn into Radyr, then Morganstown, Taffs Well, Treforest, Upper Boat and job done, same way, more or less to Caerphilly, just cross the A470 near Taffs Well and you’re on the road up the hill to Caerphilly, not a countryside road either, housing estate on there. Our outlying suburbs are moving forever north. Newport Rd, St Mellon’s way is creeping towards Newport rapidly as well.
Those aren't the population of the cities themselves. Southampton's population is 250,000, that 924,000 figure is most likely the South Hampshire built up area which includes Portsmouth, Eastleigh, Gosport etc. Same for the others, that Brighton figure is probably East Sussex, for Leicester that's its urban area and Newcastle's is Tyneside which includes Gateshead, Jarrow, South Shields etc
There are all sorts of different population definitions out there on the interweb - from narrowly defined city boundaries to city regions. I have just looked at six different sites and got six different population tables (most of them like city regions!)
I think this is about right (2021 figures) for cities themselves, excluding satellite townships and wider city regions. I always thought Birmingham was the 2nd biggest by population behind Greater London, with Leeds 3rd. (Greater Manchester is bigger than Leeds but it includes defined towns outside Manchester itself - so comes 9th on the list). Then it's Glasgow 4th followed by Sheffield 5th.
Cardiff 310,000 and Newcastle 259,000.
http://www.ukcities.co.uk/populations/