European Super League imminent?

[Optimistic Nick]

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Thats interesting! So they effectively can't be punished under the existing system

Steady on. No criticism of the op but there will be more to it than that. And even outside of EPL/FA sanctions there is plenty that can be done.

As someone said: they've gone too far this time. The Rubicon has been crossed and there can be no concession or return. This will happen. The question is whether the wider football community and the"legacy fans" have the fortitude to ensure it fails. I'd generally be pessimistic about it but the condemnation seems to be pretty universal. I really, really hope these clubs are made pariahs; their fans pick the nearest local club to support; and those behind it suffer monumental losses. And John Terry is jailed.

[Baloo]

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The reason Spurs are there is so they have 6 EPL teams onboard. That reduces the EPL options as they need 15 clubs to support any sanctions!

I understood it’s at least two-thirds i.e 14 clubs.

[cityhammer]

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I understood it’s at least two-thirds i.e 14 clubs.

It said on R2 (i think) earlier that it was 75%, but just checking and you're right, its 14, so kick the feckers out now. guess we'll know tomorrow as theres an EGM called of the 14. Its going ti be an interesting week.

[Baloo]

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It said on R2 (i think) earlier that it was 75%, but just checking and you're right, its 14, so kick the feckers out now. guess we'll know tomorrow as theres an EGM called of the 14. Its going ti be an interesting week.

Leicester/West Ham may be getting an early morning call before the EGM.

[cityhammer]

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I understood it’s at least two-thirds i.e 14 clubs.

Evidently rule changes need 14, but to kick a team out needs75%.

[City123]

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Evidently rule changes need 14, but to kick a team out needs75%.

Don't the Premier League have the power to kick them out regardless if they join this tournament without permission?

[Optimistic Nick]

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Don't the Premier League have the power to kick them out regardless if they join this tournament without permission?

Exactly. It's not like the other EPL clubs could just elect to evict Chelsea because of the continued existence of john Terry. There has to be an actual offense committed (employing John Terry should be an offence of course, but that's a different matter).

It's the rules that will evict these arseholes, not a majority vote

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Don't the Premier League have the power to kick them out regardless if they join this tournament without permission?

Several of the clubs involved were instrumental in breaking away from the Football League and forming the Premier League in the first place.

[Rjk]

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Evidently rule changes need 14, but to kick a team out needs75%.

simple solution to that, the 14 clubs vote to change the rule to make it that they only need 14 to kick.someone out

[Baloo]

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Don't the Premier League have the power to kick them out regardless if they join this tournament without permission?

Dunno. Here’s what I read in The Independent:

“Whether the Premier League were to say ‘If you play in this Super League you can’t play in this league (Premier League) again’ would come down to some interesting arguments among the members themselves,” Stephen Taylor Heath, a specialist sports and media lawyer at JMW Solicitors told the PA news agency.

“A majority of clubs (all rule changes and major commercial contracts require the support of at least a two-thirds (14-club) vote) would have the power in terms of sanctions.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european-super-league-teams-players-b1833838.html%3famp

[City123]

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Dunno. Here’s what I read in The Independent:

“Whether the Premier League were to say ‘If you play in this Super League you can’t play in this league (Premier League) again’ would come down to some interesting arguments among the members themselves,” Stephen Taylor Heath, a specialist sports and media lawyer at JMW Solicitors told the PA news agency.

“A majority of clubs (all rule changes and major commercial contracts require the support of at least a two-thirds (14-club) vote) would have the power in terms of sanctions.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...838.html%3famp

I'm sure I read the Premier League have the power to appoint a board who themselves would have the power of suspending/expelling clubs if they find they've breached rules. Its a rule that they need permission so if they don't get it then they're in breach

[William Treseder]

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Is there anybody who posts on here, that genuinely believed that this would never happen?

[Baloo]

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I'm sure I read the Premier League have the power to appoint a board who themselves would have the power of suspending/expelling clubs if they find they've breached rules. Its a rule that they need permission so if they don't get it then they're in breach

Sounds plausible. No idea if the bloke quoted in The Independent is a reliable source,

[lardy]

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Dunno. Here’s what I read in The Independent:

“Whether the Premier League were to say ‘If you play in this Super League you can’t play in this league (Premier League) again’ would come down to some interesting arguments among the members themselves,” Stephen Taylor Heath, a specialist sports and media lawyer at JMW Solicitors told the PA news agency.

“A majority of clubs (all rule changes and major commercial contracts require the support of at least a two-thirds (14-club) vote) would have the power in terms of sanctions.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...838.html%3famp

If 6 want to leave then 14 clubs can agree to throw them out.

But I saw another journo say that the criteria to expel a club is 75% (15 clubs), and it's not a coincidence that there happens to be 6 English clubs rather than 5.

[the other bob wilson]

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I think it was Des Parrot who said that the timing of the announcement a day before UEFA were due to reveal their plans for a revamped Champions League has to be relevant and that struck me as being correct when I first read it. However, I'm not so sure now after seeing the tone adopted by UEFA representatives during yesterday - the comments about the twelve clubs were almost uniformly very bitter and not of the type you see from opposing parties in a dispute where you know that a solution/fudge will be reached in the end (for example in the pre Brexit vote meetings between David Cameron and the EU which would drag on for ages before a joint communique would put the conflict back another few months).