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  • #16
    Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

    Originally posted by lardy View Post
    I'm quite sure this could have happened 50, 60, 100 years ago, but we didn't have phones, social media or police body cameras to find out about it.

    He won't be the first man ever to taunt a dying police officer.
    I think humans have always been depraved its just there are more ways to display it now

    Is filming a police officer doing his or her duty more depraved than a group of blokes on the Internet sharing videos of women being gang raped ? Which happens as does horrific child abuse forums ?

    At the end of the second World War partisans in chezchoslovakia went round in gangs finding people of German ethnic origin raping the women and hanging the children

    Mans inhumanity to Man has always been there

    RIP to those police officers 🙏 😢

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    • #17
      Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

      Originally posted by lardy View Post
      I'm quite sure this could have happened 50, 60, 100 years ago, but we didn't have phones, social media or police body cameras to find out about it.

      He won't be the first man ever to taunt a dying police officer.
      You are quite right. The world has always had it’s fair share of despicable cu*nts. But you surely can’t dispute the fact that respect is being lost all over the place.

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      • #18
        Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

        Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
        My take on this, is in no way can the cause of these deaths be blamed or even partially blamed on Pusey. That was 100% down to the Lorry driver.
        The filming of the police as they lay dying in agony is absolutely despicable and depraved though. It doesn’t surprise me, with the direction society is moving in.
        Respect seems to be disappearing
        in all walks of modern day life.
        Not sure if a long prison stretch in this case is the answer either.
        You would like to think country wide naming and shaming would put other folk off acting in this way, but somehow i doubt it would deter other despicable pricks.
        that black guy that collapsed playing for Bolton a few years back ?

        A University student posted on twitter he hoped the nggr dies 😢

        There is no end to these people sadly

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        • #19
          Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

          Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
          You are quite right. The world has always had it’s fair share of despicable cu*nts. But you surely can’t dispute the fact that respect is being lost all over the place.
          I think this is more about his mental illness than less respect amongst society.

          Did you know that there are diaries written in the 16th century where they complain about the young generation lacking respect? Walking round with large ruffles or short pantaloons or something.

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          • #20
            Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

            Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
            You are quite right. The world has always had it’s fair share of despicable cu*nts. But you surely can’t dispute the fact that respect is being lost all over the place.
            Its probably the opposite and it could be argued that respect is at its greatest levels and has been rising steadily with the advancement of education and society.

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            • #21
              Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

              Originally posted by OurManFlint II View Post
              Its probably the opposite and it could be argued that respect is at its greatest levels and has been rising steadily with the advancement of education and society.
              You would like to think so, but still having to fight against racism, youngsters shooting and stabbing each other, youngsters attacking emergency crews, the amount of vitriol on social media, then it doesn’t appear that way to me.

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              • #22
                Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

                Originally posted by lardy View Post
                I think this is more about his mental illness than less respect amongst society.

                Did you know that there are diaries written in the 16th century where they complain about the young generation lacking respect? Walking round with large ruffles or short pantaloons or something.
                This case may be, but if someone got knocked down in a high st today, or someone got stabbed a few folk would try to help, but many more would stand there filming it on their phones.

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                • #23
                  Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

                  Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
                  This case may be, but if someone got knocked down in a high st today, or someone got stabbed a few folk would try to help, but many more would stand there filming it on their phones.
                  True but in years gone by a few would have tried to help but many more would have stood there just watching, or kept walking

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                  • #24
                    Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

                    I'm inclined to agree with WT.

                    It wasn't that long ago there was a thing called self respect.
                    People used to care about what other's perception of themself was.

                    The thought of bringing shame to the family by having the police knock on your door.

                    It just seems like anything goes so just get on and deal with it.

                    This guy may well have mental health problems and I'm sure his brief played on this big time but don't tell me he didn't know right from wrong.

                    He broke the law in the first instance, that in itself is risking hurting others.
                    Taunting someone dying after trying to do their job instead of trying to perhaps comfort them is just wrong.
                    To record and distribute the footage is just beyond belief.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

                      " don't tell me he didn't know right from wrong."

                      I don't think anyone has suggested he isn't fully responsible for what he did.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

                        Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                        True but in years gone by a few would have tried to help but many more would have stood there just watching, or kept walking
                        That’s human nature, but to start filming it on your phone to share with others, is despicable behaviour, only carried out by cretins.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

                          Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
                          That’s human nature, but to start filming it on your phone to share with others, is despicable behaviour, only carried out by cretins.
                          There were cretins in years gone by as well, and if mobile phones with cameras were available in those days they would have been used in just the same way, don't kid yourself. Most young people I interact with these days seem a lot more polite and courteous than people I remember when I was that age (myself included), far more likely to get involved in social movements, far less judgemental of people who are different to themselves. Awareness of issues like racism, ableism etc is incomparable to 30 years ago. There are several kids in my offspring's school who are on the autistic spectrum, some more severe than others, and the lengths the other kids will go to to include them is quite heart warming.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Is this guys sentence justified, or should it have been longer?

                            Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
                            That’s human nature, but to start filming it on your phone to share with others, is despicable behaviour, only carried out by cretins.
                            Well I don't disagree there

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