Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
keep Welsh Labour independent of England, scrap UK Labour party , form a left of centre democratic anti tory alliance which can team up with Welsh Labour to keep the tories out

Labour party in England is finished , Liberals have had it but a new party emerging from the ashes of both of them and a few independents is the way to go

There are still a majority of this country that will never vote tory , you just have to offer them something new

This left of centre, hybrid, combination party you keep on screaming for, are you suggesting something that was successful as the SDP and Change UK?