Hodgson to leave Crystal Palace

[Tuerto]

With the Black lives matter movement, and the attention paid to it by Sky, it will be interesting to see how many are now given a chance.

Fair point.

[surge]

There aren't any, are there, that's the point i'm making.

I do think something must be going wrong based on how few there are throughout the leagues - that's where I agree with you rather than saying "this white manager doesn't deserve it." Sorry if I alluded to it rather than saying outright where I was in agreement.

In terms of black managers who should get a shot, Ashley Cole came across well in the FA Cup coverage and apart from the Cashley Cole thing from ages ago I can't see any reason why he's not being rumoured for jobs. There will be a lot who haven't got the profile but have all the right stuff just the media aren't paying attention to them yet.

On the flip side, Sol Bamba will get a job soon (either here or at Middlesbrough) but I've not heard anything said about his tactical knowledge and only a bit about man management skills so for now I'd put him in the list of "ex-pros jumping the queue" rather than known managerial skills. With his connections, depth of thinking (demonstrated when speaking about social issues) and charm I'd currently back him as a DoF before a manager.

[Rjk]

I do think something must be going wrong based on how few there are throughout the leagues - that's where I agree with you rather than saying "this white manager doesn't deserve it." Sorry if I alluded to it rather than saying outright where I was in agreement.

In terms of black managers who should get a shot, Ashley Cole came across well in the FA Cup coverage and apart from the Cashley Cole thing from ages ago I can't see any reason why he's not being rumoured for jobs. There will be a lot who haven't got the profile but have all the right stuff just the media aren't paying attention to them yet.

On the flip side, Sol Bamba will get a job soon (either here or at Middlesbrough) but I've not heard anything said about his tactical knowledge and only a bit about man management skills so for now I'd put him in the list of "ex-pros jumping the queue" rather than known managerial skills. With his connections, depth of thinking (demonstrated when speaking about social issues) and charm I'd currently back him as a DoF before a manager.

i think sol has definitely got it in him to do well in a coaching career, but those are weird reasons to back him as a director of football

[Rjk]

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next palace manager has a bit of a Job on their hands

[Tuerto]

I do think something must be going wrong based on how few there are throughout the leagues - that's where I agree with you rather than saying "this white manager doesn't deserve it." Sorry if I alluded to it rather than saying outright where I was in agreement.

In terms of black managers who should get a shot, Ashley Cole came across well in the FA Cup coverage and apart from the Cashley Cole thing from ages ago I can't see any reason why he's not being rumoured for jobs. There will be a lot who haven't got the profile but have all the right stuff just the media aren't paying attention to them yet.

On the flip side, Sol Bamba will get a job soon (either here or at Middlesbrough) but I've not heard anything said about his tactical knowledge and only a bit about man management skills so for now I'd put him in the list of "ex-pros jumping the queue" rather than known managerial skills. With his connections, depth of thinking (demonstrated when speaking about social issues) and charm I'd currently back him as a DoF before a manager.

Good post. I think that it's simple. Black players aren't trusted in positions of power, simply because there aren't many in society. It's ok for institutions to say that they are tackling racism, run awareness programmes etc, but there comes a time when actions speak louder than words.

[NYCBlue]

If Frank lampard gets the job, then it seems obvious that white players who are the media darlings, get preferential treatment. He's done **** all, there's nothing to say that he should be a premier League manager. If he was black, he'd struggle to get a league 1 job.

This.

I have NO idea why people think he would be a good choice. He needs to learn his trade. He needs to learn the divisions. He seems like a decent bloke. He's no John Terry for example. But at least Terry has the sense to know that right now he is the student and not the master.

Anyway as regards Roy, I think he's done a great job. He's a good coach. He knows the game. He's probably had a gutsfull. I can't see him taking a backseat anywhere. I hope he enjoys a happy retirement.

[NYCBlue]

If Frank lampard gets the job, then it seems obvious that white players who are the media darlings, get preferential treatment. He's done **** all, there's nothing to say that he should be a premier League manager. If he was black, he'd struggle to get a league 1 job.

This.

I have NO idea why people think he would be a good choice. He needs to learn his trade. He needs to learn the divisions. He seems like a decent bloke. He's no John Terry for example. But at least Terry has the sense to know that right now he is the student and not the master.

Anyway as regards Roy, I think he's done a great job. He's a good coach. He knows the game. He's probably had a gutsfull. I can't see him taking a backseat anywhere. I hope he enjoys a happy retirement.

I would take a punt on Lamaprd at City though.

[Tuerto]

Just to even things up, Roy getting angry and swearing-it doesn't suit him Great coach.

[the other bob wilson]

Which Black managers would you say deserve a shot on merit at the Palace job?

How about Chris Hughton? The Brighton connection would work against him I suppose, but his teams play in a similar style to Roy Hodgson's and his record in the Premier League is not bad. Hughton is one in a very small group of managers (in fact he may be the only one) where clubs look past his colour when considering him because he has established himself as a "safe pair of hands" type of manager over a long period - I don't think it is too outlandish to think he could get the Palace job if he applied for it.

[J R Hartley]

If Frank lampard gets the job, then it seems obvious that white players who are the media darlings, get preferential treatment. He's done **** all, there's nothing to say that he should be a premier League manager. If he was black, he'd struggle to get a league 1 job.

Good old CCMB. Someone starts a thread on a particular subject and someone else will shortly be along to virtue signal a totally irrelevant point to the subject and take the thread off in a different direction.

[J R Hartley]

Has done well so far in his short management career. Chelsea job was a bit too big and too soon in his career but as he said at the time he just couldnt turn it down. He did well last year developing their young talent, Mason Mount in particular as already touched on. Bigger and more established managers have been sacked at Chelsea so its not really that much of a blot on his copybook.

He is a privately educated and intelligent person, is one of the best players this country has seen in the last 25 years and as a player was leader. Its not difficult to see what would attract him to a multi-million pound organisation.

[chris lee]

Just to even things up, Roy getting angry and swearing-it doesn't suit him Great coach.

I have always loved that interview, the way they restart as if nothing has happened is brilliant

makes you think how many of those little 30 sec interviews we see have been derived from arguments and failed attempts.

[Rjk]

Eze just picked up a long term injury that will keep him out for a while next season.
The new manager's job just got even ore difficult