Justice for the 96...

[Jordi Culé]

Never going to happen due to a technicality.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/28/hillsborough-last-chance-of-justice-slips-away-for-bereaved-families

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Never going to happen due to a technicality.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...eaved-families

Its appalling

Never mind the always the victims arseholes , Hillsborough was a flecking stitch up and the corruption went through the police , the ambulance service and the government

Its an absolute disgrace

Poor bastards

One of my mates at college was crushed in that

He went from being a football loving cheeky git who would come to watch Cardiff with me to a bloke on a life support machine to someone who now needs 24 hour care

He wasn't drunk , he didn't force open the gates or open them himself , he was crushed up against the fence , pushed over for help by fellow fans and then given sub standard medical treatment .

And like any of us all he was doing was going to a football match .


Fecking stinks .

[ToTaL ITK]

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disgusting from start to finish

[Hilts]

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Its incredible looking at footage matches from years back with fans crammed together and fenced in.

Luckily we were shit for most of the days but looking back the Welsh Cup Final v Wexham in Swansea the ground must have held 15000 minimum. If i remember correct there were about 200 Wrexham fans behind 1 goal a similar amount of Swansea fans in the North Bank and around easily 5000 of us crammed into 1 end which I believe was split into 2 ares with a fence down the middle.

Sadly it was a disaster waiting to happen and the cover up and reporting a disgrace.

[life on mars]

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It was dreadful however shouldn't we draw a line now .

[insider]

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Never draw a line
Never forgive
Never forget.
The establishment have gotten off Scott free in this.
96 people lost their lives never forgotten by me and never will.

[Llandaff Blue]

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It was dreadful however shouldn't we draw a line now .

you consistently post the worst takes on this board

[Stanmore Bluebird]

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Having lived in Liverpool whilst a student, I can advise that their fans are horrible. It is never their fault for Heysel or Hillsborough. When things go wrong for their team, they moan more way than any other supporters. If they had behaved themselves, then my opinion is that there would have been little or no bereavements at aforementioned stadiums. It was mainly the bad behaviour of Liverpool fans that caused English clubs to be banned from European tournaments for a number of years.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Its incredible looking at footage matches from years back with fans crammed together and fenced in.

Luckily we were shit for most of the days but looking back the Welsh Cup Final v Wexham in Swansea the ground must have held 15000 minimum. If i remember correct there were about 200 Wrexham fans behind 1 goal a similar amount of Swansea fans in the North Bank and around easily 5000 of us crammed into 1 end which I believe was split into 2 ares with a fence down the middle.

Sadly it was a disaster waiting to happen and the cover up and reporting a disgrace.

It was very uncomfortable in the west terrace that night , I wanted to celebrate when we scored but I could hardly move . They could easily have given us the North Bank.

When the final was switched to the millennium or whatever it was called that day Swansea brought 4000 fans and they could sit in comfort

Why so many of us were crammed into that chicken wire enclosure is beyond me

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Having lived in Liverpool whilst a student, I can advise that their fans are horrible. It is never their fault for Heysel or Hillsborough. When things go wrong for their team, they moan more way than any other supporters. If they had behaved themselves, then my opinion is that there would have been little or no bereavements at aforementioned stadiums. It was mainly the bad behaviour of Liverpool fans that caused English clubs to be banned from European tournaments for a number of years.

there is always one

I said there are people out there who despite the evidence still blame the fans and here comes along one

You are talking about the behaviour of football fans

Do you know anything about the behaviour of Cardiff City fans in the last 40 years ?

I have seen disorder from our clubs fans in this country and in Europe

If the fences hadn't been in place for many of our games in the past then there would have been riots

As a club we were at the forefront of violence for many years and if you are going to shame Liverpool for Hillsborough.......which didn't involve violence and intimidation ......then you need to shame Cardiff , Chelsea , Wolves , Leeds , Millwall , Stoke , West Ham , Spurs , Birmingham City , Portsmouth and lots of other football clubs

Leeds were rioting in 1974 in Europe , big time , luckily nobody was killed

[William Treseder]

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there is always one

I said there are people out there who despite the evidence still blame the fans and here comes along one

You are talking about the behaviour of football fans

Do you know anything about the behaviour of Cardiff City fans in the last 40 years ?

I have seen disorder from our clubs fans in this country and in Europe

If the fences hadn't been in place for many of our games in the past then there would have been riots

As a club we were at the forefront of violence for many years and if you are going to shame Liverpool for Hillsborough.......which didn't involve violence and intimidation ......then you need to shame Cardiff , Chelsea , Wolves , Leeds , Millwall , Stoke , West Ham , Spurs , Birmingham City , Portsmouth and lots of other football clubs

Leeds were rioting in 1974 in Europe , big time , luckily nobody was killed

So basically, the hooligans of the time, from all the clubs you mentioned, are just as much to blame as the fuzz. If fences hadn’t had to have been there, not a single Liverpool fan would have died that day.

[Tuerto]

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So basically, the hooligans of the time, from all the clubs you mentioned, are just as much to blame as the fuzz. If fences hadn’t had to have been there, not a single Liverpool fan would have died that day.

People didn't die because of fences, that's a bit like saying a car is to blame for a pedestrians death even though the person driving was pissed and out of control.

[William Treseder]

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People didn't die because of fences, that's a bit like saying a car is to blame for a pedestrians death even though the person driving was pissed and out of control.

Of course they died because of the fences.If they weren’t there, they would have survived. The combination of police mistakes, fans trying to get in without tickets, and the presence of fences, was the lethal cocktail.
Some folk just wont accept that fact.
The police trying to cover up the part they played is and was disgraceful, but they were not alone in the blame department.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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So basically, the hooligans of the time, from all the clubs you mentioned, are just as much to blame as the fuzz. If fences hadn’t had to have been there, not a single Liverpool fan would have died that day.

Well thats incorrect

Many died in the tunnel , nowhere near any fences

Hillsborough could have happened to any clubs fans , including ours

Hereford away in the Welsh Cup was a nightmare

And if we are talking about the police , who were just a part of the nightmare of Hillsborough........shocking , inept and badly organised according to the Taylor report .......then South Yorkshire Police clearly learned nothing from Hillsborough as they went berserk on innocent Cardiff fans outside Bramhall Lane on our first visit back in 2003

You seem very black and white , good and bad , crime and punishment which is your opinion but the facts about Hillsborough put the blame fairly and squarely on the police , the ambulance service , the ticketing allocation and the fact that a serious road accident on the main road into Sheffield delayed thousands of fans who arrived on masse

Many of those killed or injured hadn't consumed any alcohol and all the crap about our brave cops being assaulted or pissed on by drunken scousers as they tried to revive dying football fans was utter shite written by the sun

People with a bit going on upstairs know that's utter lies

I am off now , my friend is still in need of 24 hour care whilst ill informed people still trot out the same old bullshit 😴

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Of course they died because of the fences.If they weren’t there, they would have survived. The combination of police mistakes, fans trying to get in without tickets, and the presence of fences, was the lethal cocktail.
Some folk just wont accept that fact.
The police trying to cover up the part they played is and was disgraceful, but they were not alone in the blame department.

What even those crushed in the tunnel ?

Some folk are just ill informed, as you are

Now that , really is it