Would Rob Page make a good Cardiff City manager?

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Re: Would Rob Page make a good Cardiff City manager?

Seems like another Mike Flynn type thread...

The biggest similarity is that we simply don't know whether they would work out here.

Mike Flynn has done relatively well at League 2 at the club he knows better than anyone but no evidence of his work elsewhere.

Rob Page, from what I can remember, didn't do good things as a club boss but hasn't been a club boss since January 2017 which is a very long time ago in the world of football. He has done okay (maybe a bit better than that) in tough circumstances recently but we know international football is very different.

Lack of evidence to make a judgement off.

[J R Hartley]

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We’ve had great results under Page in the Nations League, we gave Belgium a scare in March and while were lucky to best the Czech Republic, we still found a way to do it.

Are you saying that qualifying in second place from a group where we had to play two games in sweltering conditions 3,000 miles away and the other against Italy in Rome is just something routine that we should not be impressed by?

I’m far from convinced that Rob Page would be a good City manager, but think he should be given a lot of credit for coming in and doing a good job for Wales under difficult circumstances.

You’re not seriously giving him the credit for the nations league games?


Since he started putting his own stamp on things Wales have had one victory in 5 against the worst team in the tournament. Only under public pressure has he started with Kieffer Moore this tournament, it was not his intention.

Anyone who thinks playing Chris Gunter a left sided centre half against the Italians needs a good shoeing.

Taking Dan James straight off after we equalised against the Swiss was another diabolical decision.

[NYCBlue]

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Yeah, I hate this 'false 9' bullshit when we have a 'real 9' in the squad.. and also others who can play the 9 role.

'False 9', fecks sake.. who does he think he is, Pep?

At least he realised it wasn't working and decided to bring Keiffer on.

[J R Hartley]

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At least he realised it wasn't working and decided to bring Keiffer on.

Bale probably told him at HT. Bale is running that show.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IICt-tGoTtg

Tifo football (think they're part of The Athletic family) talking our tactics against Italy between 33:30-39:30 here.

The comment at 37:30 is relevant for this thread. Though I do think Page is backed up by some really good staff.

[Hilts]

Re: Would Rob Page make a good Cardiff City manager?

Following on from the Flynn suggestion ive been waiting for this one.

No is the answer.

[2b2bdoo]

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God no.

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Why do players playing in the 'false 9' role wear the number 9 shirt?

They're masquerading as a 9, but its all false!

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At least he realised it wasn't working and decided to bring Keiffer on.

He said post match that he had had no intention of playing Moore, and when we went down to 10 men he only eventually brought him on because his coaches told him to. He didn't want to do it.

[NYCBlue]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IICt-tGoTtg

Tifo football (think they're part of The Athletic family) talking our tactics against Italy between 33:30-39:30 here.

The comment at 37:30 is relevant for this thread. Though I do think Page is backed up by some really good staff.

Interesting and mostly intelligent stuff. But I could get past why the bloke who spoke the most sense has his laptop covered in stickers. What's up with that?

[NYCBlue]

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Interesting and mostly intelligent stuff. But I could get past why the bloke who spoke the most sense has his laptop covered in stickers. What's up with that?

Actually, that's inaccurate. I could get past it. I just thought it was strange.

[Cowbridge Blue]

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[QUOTE='False 9', fecks sake.. who does he think he is, Pep?[/QUOTE]

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Would Rob Page make a good Cardiff City manager?

You’re not seriously giving him the credit for the nations league games?


Since he started putting his own stamp on things Wales have had one victory in 5 against the worst team in the tournament. Only under public pressure has he started with Kieffer Moore this tournament, it was not his intention.

Anyone who thinks playing Chris Gunter a left sided centre half against the Italians needs a good shoeing.

Taking Dan James straight off after we equalised against the Swiss was another diabolical decision.

Yes i am giving Page credit for making sure we won our Nations League group with its promotion into the top tier and chance of qualifying for the next World Cup which went with it. Bizarrely, I can only ever remember you being supportive of Neil Harris among City and Wales managers of the recent past, but, if a Wales boss you rated had done the same as Page did in the Nations League, I don't think you'd be as quick to write it off.

Scotland's latest failure to qualify from the group stages of a major competitions Finals gives a good opportunity to put some perspective on what Rob Page (and Chris Coleman who also had his critics among Welsh fans) have achieved in the last two Euros. Jock Stein and Alex Ferguson are among the managers who have been unbale to achieve for Scotland what Page and Coleman have done for Wales.

You can have a go at individual decisions (I'm definitely not a fan of Wales playing with a "false" number nine) as much as you like, but the bigger picture is that Page got us through a tough group in which I'm pretty sure we had to do more travelling than any other side in the competition and I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up playing our games at the highest average temperature of the twenty four sides.

Page might not make a good City manager, but he has been an effective and successful one for Wales.

[Hilts]

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It is an achievement what hes done. But lets be honest. We were fortunate to get a point against Switzerland and very fortunate not to be totally hammered v Italy.

We are so reliant on Bale and Ramsey being on the top of their game.

Im concerned with a manager who picks Chris Gunter , selects a Luton reserve and thinks Rodon/Mepham is a superb partnership.

Saying that ive no idea really how good Page is.

City had stick off some for our 2nd half display v Swansea despite restricting them to 1 short on target and creating the best chance. Whereas Wales get a free pass being dominated by Italy in 3rd gear and even subbing their keeper.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Would Rob Page make a good Cardiff City manager?

It is an achievement what hes done. But lets be honest. We were fortunate to get a point against Switzerland and very fortunate not to be totally hammered v Italy.

We are so reliant on Bale and Ramsey being on the top of their game.

Im concerned with a manager who picks Chris Gunter , selects a Luton reserve and thinks Rodon/Mepham is a superb partnership.

Saying that ive no idea really how good Page is.

City had stick off some for our 2nd half display v Swansea despite restricting them to 1 short on target and creating the best chance. Whereas Wales get a free pass being dominated by Italy in 3rd gear and even subbing their keeper.

Isn't the point that, once the decision to exclude Davies and Mepham had been made, you only had a choice out of Gunter and Cobango - I would have gone with the latter, but Gunter has not got one hundred and two caps for no reason, he's one of those players who seems able to make the jump to international football easier than you would think and I think you can count the number of really poor games he's had for Wales on the fingers of one hand. As for the Luton reserve, once it had been decided Ampadu was going to start in defence and Ramsey in a more advanced position, his selection makes more sense when you consider that the realistic alternatives were someone who played for Doncaster Rovers last season or someone who couldn't get in the Istra 1961 first team.

Finally, is your Italy/Swansea comparison a fair one? Italy, even with all of those changes, were better than virtually anyone else in the tournament , Swansea are a good Championship side with a few limitations - City were booting the ball up the pitch to no one in the second half at the Liberty despite, unlike wales, having eleven players on the pitch for the last thirty five minutes of the match.