Seems Mainly UK Sides Taking The Knee

[Dave Blue]

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I think it’s a ‘we are closer to USA’ thing. Things that happen over there are far more likely to catch on in UK than Europe. I totally support it by the way.

[Dorcus]

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What's the point you're making? Do you not approve of it? If so, then give the reasons why, then we can have a decent debate about it. I'm guessing that you don't like it, that's fine in my opinion, but stop trying to be cute about it and say why.

He's a Tory, what do you expect? All those "Now, I'm not a racist, but...." are Daily Mail readers!

[Tuerto]

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He's a Tory, what do you expect? All those "Now, I'm not a racist, but...." are Daily Mail readers!

I know what he is, but if he thinks that taking the knee is futile, pointless, or he's just plain old racist, then why doesn't he just say so, instead of taking the weasel way out all of the time. I'd rather people be honest about their prejudices.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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The ‘Now, I’m not a racist by any means, but’ brigade. It’s worrying that more and more are using their opposition to things like taking the knee as a phoney innocent way of showing their true colours.

ain't that the truth

All lives matter !

Yeah OK, you are a daft racist 🙄

[Dorcus]

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I know what he is, but if he thinks that taking the knee is futile, pointless, or he's just plain old racist, then why doesn't he just say so, instead of taking the weasel way out all of the time. I'd rather people be honest about their prejudices.

'cos that's exactly what Tories are....weasels! I should have expanded upon my definition earlier by the way to include Telegraph, Express and Sun readers. I think it great sport to see all these Gammons getting hot under the collar about a simple gesture. It must tear their heart out lol.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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'cos that's exactly what Tories are....weasels! I should have expanded upon my definition earlier by the way to include Telegraph, Express and Sun readers. I think it great sport to see all these Gammons getting hot under the collar about a simple gesture. It must tear their heart out lol.

I think generalising is letting LoM off the hook. He started the thread and should have the opportunity of moving beyond his craven reasoning to articulate why he feels so driven to start so many ambiguous threads about the specific subject of "taking the knee".

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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'cos that's exactly what Tories are....weasels! I should have expanded upon my definition earlier by the way to include Telegraph, Express and Sun readers. I think it great sport to see all these Gammons getting hot under the collar about a simple gesture. It must tear their heart out lol.

It was noticeable that, as black lives matters and taking the knee became more popular, so the political far right saw an opportunity to make it something from the political left.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I can see why people who put forward a reasoned argument think its time to move on , my view is if the players want to do it , let them

But there is a huge chunk of people who are very much racist and hide it very badly over this BLM protest

[life on mars]

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Still think more sides would adopt the position of taking the knee , shocked to read today it was just a few sides still adopting it mainly the UK sides, pointing out that doesn't make anyone a racist or right winger.

Neither does it make anyone a racist who they vote for albeit racism exists both the left and right side of politics and its voters .

If some feel taking the knee is now slowly losing its impact , it doesn't make them racists.

It's reported decent genuine and even black players and sides think the action has perhaps had its day, and perhaps should now end ,still doesn't make them racists .

[jon1959]

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It looks as if the Wales team either encouraged or shamed the Turkey team and half the Italy team into taking the knee too.

Good on them!

[Llandaff Blue]

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Still think more sides would adopt the position of taking the knee , shocked to read today it was just a few sides still adopting it mainly the UK sides, pointing out that doesn't make anyone a racist or right winger.

Neither does it make anyone a racist who they vote for albeit racism exists both the left and right side of politics and its voters .

If some feel taking the knee is now slowly losing its impact , it doesn't make them racists.

It's reported decent genuine and even black players and sides think the action has perhaps had its day, and perhaps should now end ,still doesn't make them racists .

You're painfully transparent.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Still think more sides would adopt the position of taking the knee , shocked to read today it was just a few sides still adopting it mainly the UK sides, pointing out that doesn't make anyone a racist or right winger.

Neither does it make anyone a racist who they vote for albeit racism exists both the left and right side of politics and its voters .

If some feel taking the knee is now slowly losing its impact , it doesn't make them racists.

It's reported decent genuine and even black players and sides think the action has perhaps had its day, and perhaps should now end ,still doesn't make them racists .

I would agree with you that it shouldn't make a difference regarding voting intention and what papers you read but its definitely a factor

Let's be honest here if someone gets their news from The Sun or The Daily Mail they are going to be fed some right nasty stuff regarding race and immigration .

And when the tory party openly courts the immigration card then its going to attract people of a racist persuasion to vote for them .

Having said that there are lots of people from white working class backgrounds who read The Sun and vote Labour and some of the attitudes on building sites towards black people and some of the racially offensive terms used wouldn't go down well with the Islington Labour Party .

I think the tories are very clever in attracting the white working class who are right wing in thinking regarding race

Thats why Labour are fecked.

[life on mars]

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I would agree with you that it shouldn't make a difference regarding voting intention and what papers you read but its definitely a factor

Let's be honest here if someone gets their news from The Sun or The Daily Mail they are going to be fed some right nasty stuff regarding race and immigration .

And when the tory party openly courts the immigration card then its going to attract people of a racist persuasion to vote for them .

Having said that there are lots of people from white working class backgrounds who read The Sun and vote Labour and some of the attitudes on building sites towards black people and some of the racially offensive terms used wouldn't go down well with the Islington Labour Party .

I think the tories are very clever in attracting the white working class who are right wing in thinking regarding race

Thats why Labour are fecked.

Spot on , not sure about clever Tories lol , I just wonder if they were Tory voters in the beginning ,seemed that way in the Brexit vote

[life on mars]

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It looks as if the Wales team either encouraged or shamed the Turkey team and half the Italy team into taking the knee too.

Good on them!

indeed , especially the Turks as their countries history on human rights is one of the worst .

I'm guessing their players see a fairer broader life playing in England , Germany etc , than in their own country .

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Still think more sides would adopt the position of taking the knee , shocked to read today it was just a few sides still adopting it mainly the UK sides, pointing out that doesn't make anyone a racist or right winger.

Neither does it make anyone a racist who they vote for albeit racism exists both the left and right side of politics and its voters .

If some feel taking the knee is now slowly losing its impact , it doesn't make them racists.

It's reported decent genuine and even black players and sides think the action has perhaps had its day, and perhaps should now end ,still doesn't make them racists .

I agree that if some feel taking the knee is now slowly losing its impact it doesn't make them racist. But if "some" decried it from the outset and regularly posted updates each time some player or team stopped to argue everyone should stop as it has had its day then it probably does. Here is your back copy on the subject if it helps others form a view on which side of the line you fall.

1. If black lives matter so much why do they kill each other .
2. with regards to black lives matter I get it ,support it,fed up with it dictating every media narrative .
3. I'm on one knee as we speak ,I'm sure nothing bad was going on perfect driving ,no etc
4. before all this , ,people were asking why black youths were knifing each other in London
5. It's been politically highjacked, wait for the onslaught .
6. Well done QPR and Matt Le Tissier
7. Its about the overall injustices in the world which all deserve the same empathy and respect of lives ,its strange how certain injustices are recognised over others , for example I cant recall a simalir demonstrsting in the same as BLM , hope its not political.
8. Need to move on now , lots of folk irritated , lots of things wrong in the world.
9. society problem is about populism subject matter such as BLM or Eco issues ,its like the brand new thing to follow ,
10. The only interest I ever had in 'taking the knee ' was when I was involved in parks football
11. I'd never boo , however I do think taking the knee needs to have an end date
12. Where have all the BLM riots /Demo's gone in the USA and to some extent UK, loads of statues left standing we need rid off ?
13. With the latest onset of abusive via ocial media sites , from racism to death threats and homephobic insults to wards Black and white people, isn't it time that footballers as a unit now make a similar stance as tthd yaking the knee protest and simply stop using these abusive platforms that generate such nastiness .
14. Great decision well, done the brave Bees , when you consider they in particular have developed and have a lot of good young black players .Think it all as to end , before crowds return .Iwonder if the 6 nation Rugby players divided response provide a catalyst to change ?
15. Rumours Brentford will not be taking the knee in the Premiership. Croatia are saying the same for the Euro's , both refer to the alleged no politics rules in football , and its long-term ineffectiveness , as per Zaha point and decision ?
16. Lets prey the new football role models of society behaviour in the appropriate for all manner of things not just race .
17. Appears Scotland will not be Taking The Knee ,it will intresting to see how this plays out over the tournament .I believe England and NZ cricketers didn't partake today .