FT: ENGLAND 1 - 1 ITALY. Italy win on pens

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: FT: ENGLAND 1 - 1 ITALY. Italy win on pens

Sums it up perfectly.

Rashfords ridiculous run-up (stroll-up?) put the players after him under enormous pressure.
Hero to Zero.

To be fair rashford hit the post , it was a good penalty that beat the keeper
4 inches the other way ......

[lardy]

Re: FT: ENGLAND 1 - 1 ITALY. Italy win on pens

To be fair rashford hit the post , it was a good penalty that beat the keeper
4 inches the other way ......

If you do that, you have to hit the target. That's the absolute minimum.

[Trigger]

Re: FT: ENGLAND 1 - 1 ITALY. Italy win on pens

To be fair rashford hit the post , it was a good penalty that beat the keeper
4 inches the other way ......

Yea but 4 inches to the left and he would have missed even further.

[WJ99mobile]

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Kane is a con artist always looking for a free kick , he's a cheat

He's not a lot different to Kieffer in that regard

It's good when he's playing for you

[WJ99mobile]

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Ref needed some praise yesterday letting game flow and no nonsense on going down easily

[City123]

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He's not a lot different to Kieffer in that regard

It's good when he's playing for you

Kieffer gets booked for jumping, Kane throws himself to the floor with regularity and for once the ref didn't buy it. I'm sure we'll hear all about Italian cheating, but some of England's play acting was absurd

[Baloo]

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This may actually be a bit harsh but I do find this malarkey of immediately removing the runners-up medal a bit ostentatious. As if it has to be immediately shown to everybody that the players were there to win.

Appreciate they're disappointed but having having accepted all the plaudits for getting there I think a bit more dignity could be shown after losing to a better team. See Wimbledon runners-up for instance.

[Cleve van Leef]

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He's not a lot different to Kieffer in that regard

It's good when he's playing for you

You’re very wrong about Moore.

[MacAdder]

Re: FT: ENGLAND 1 - 1 ITALY. Italy win on pens

This may actually be a bit harsh but I do find this malarkey of immediately removing the runners-up medal a bit ostentatious. As if it has to be immediately shown to everybody that the players were there to win.

Appreciate they're disappointed but having having accepted all the plaudits for getting there I think a bit more dignity could be shown after losing to a better team. See Wimbledon runners-up for instance.

Not harsh at all, in fact it is spot on.

Not an ounce of humility, it's petulance and arrogance.

Why should people feel proud of their achievements when none of them felt pride themselves.

I would feel embarrassed if I was their parent.

[Hilts]

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As soon as England lost there would be questions on negative selection.

Foden walks into the Italian team. Doesnt even kick the ball in the final. England have better strikers who didnt even make the plane than Immobile and Belotti.

Grealish Sancho Saka etc all bit part players.

The Italians deserved the win , England have had a superb tournament and been edged out. We will never know what would have happened if say theyd played 1 DM and added another attacking player.

[City123]

Re: FT: ENGLAND 1 - 1 ITALY. Italy win on pens

As soon as England lost there would be questions on negative selection.

Foden walks into the Italian team. Doesnt even kick the ball in the final. England have better strikers who didnt even make the plane than Immobile and Belotti.

Grealish Sancho Saka etc all bit part players.

The Italians deserved the win , England have had a superb tournament and been edged out. We will never know what would have happened if say theyd played 1 DM and added another attacking player.

Ahead of who? One of the players of the tournament in Chiesa? Insigne who's had a wonderful season with Napoli? Serie A winner Barella?

English teams and players are hugely overhyped. Foden's a good player but he doesn't "walk into" the best team at the tournament. Had England been on the other side of the draw they'd have been knocked out well before the final

[chrisp_1927]

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4 inches the other way ......

Sounds like a decent film that .

[Hilts]

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Ahead of who? One of the players of the tournament in Chiesa? Insigne who's had a wonderful season with Napoli? Serie A winner Barella?

English teams and players are hugely overhyped. Foden's a good player but he doesn't "walk into" the best team at the tournament. Had England been on the other side of the draw they'd have been knocked out well before the final

Fair point on the players you mention all top quality.

If Foden was Italian I think axing Immobile and playing Insigne through the centre improves them.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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I agree with this. They had the right talent, skills & opportunities but never used them.

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I thought Italy looked edgy for most of the 1st half. They had decent possession after the 1st 20 minutes or so, but didn't look at all confident. I'm sure England could have got a second if they kept up their high intensity/attacking game, but they just sank back into their shell. In my mind England don't have a weakness when it comes to individual players, but they lacked character, bottle. In the end, the better team won.

[surge]

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As soon as England lost there would be questions on negative selection.

Foden walks into the Italian team. Doesnt even kick the ball in the final. England have better strikers who didnt even make the plane than Immobile and Belotti.

Grealish Sancho Saka etc all bit part players.

The Italians deserved the win , England have had a superb tournament and been edged out. We will never know what would have happened if say theyd played 1 DM and added another attacking player.

England had a very good tournament but they played 6 out of 7 games at home and despite this failed to beat a top 10 nation in normal time. While rankings flawed, no way Czechia should be ranked FIFA's 40th best side, officially they played against as many sides in FIFA's 40s as the top 10, beat a Croatia side not as good as they were 3 years ago, a Germany side not as good as they were 5 years ago and a Ukraine side with top players injured in a round too far for them.

Performances were very good, attitude was very good but it's surely a bit much to say they had a superb tournament?

Italy beat 3 teams in the top 10 (1 in normal time), beat 2 teams ranked 10-20 (same as England) and beat the the 2 teams they played ranked 20-30. They didn't face anyone outside top 30 and had a much better tournament overall.