Racism allegation - The Athletic

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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The **** is going on in the academy? Disgraceful

My thoughts exactly. How is this investigation still going ahead? Major changes are needed and should have happened a long, long time ago.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Why did it take three years to come to light?

Abuse is often hidden for years until those affected talk about it

[Bobby Dandruff]

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Abuse is often hidden for years until those affected talk about it

Ok.

How very sad that something so traumatic should fester for so long :-(

[the other bob wilson]

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When is the club report announced in March going to be completed I wonder - is the fact it’s taking some time a sign of the club taking the allegations seriously or does it indicate we’ll end up with a fudge after a long delay?

[City123]

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Appalling

[Tuerto]

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When is the club report announced in March going to be completed I wonder - is the fact it’s taking some time a sign of the club taking the allegations seriously or does it indicate we’ll end up with a fudge after a long delay?

dml is on it, apparently it's going to be like the Chilcott report, although in reverse.

[the other bob wilson]

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dml is on it, apparently it's going to be like the Chilcott report, although in reverse.

:hehe:

[the other bob wilson]

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Kids in the ten to eleven age range can be as cruel as any group you come across and I can recall how some of my schoolmates lives were turned into a living hell around that age because they were the ones selected by the "influencers" to be picked on. So, I reckon it's definitely possible that the banana throwing incident happened, but, surely, if it did so on a mini bus, there would have been adult supervision taking place?

I'm not going to go into detail, but the decision by the club to place some individuals who worked in the Academy on gardening leave in March did not come as a shock at all given what I had heard over the preceding year or two. I have been a constant critic of the club when it comes to producing our own first team players in recent years, but, the more you hear about our Academy since Neil Ardley left, the more you have to marvel at someone like Mark Harris who is in the first team squad despite having come through our system.

[goats]

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So you are automatically assuming that its all true then. Funny that - I got the totally opposite view from reading the OP, where it appears to me the club acted quickly and properly at the time the incident took place. Assuming that the story actually happened as described of course. It wouldn't be the first time that a media outlet had concocted a story to make its own headlines. There appear to be people with agendas against the club involved here.

Knowing how stupid teenagers can be, I still find this hard to believe. Young players are all creeds and cultures these days, a few white boys giving out some grief on a bus with 4 adults in it too? The club should be embracing the cultures of south Cardiff on its doorstep but it seems like it rarely does……

[AfricanBluebird]

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Knowing how stupid teenagers can be, I still find this hard to believe. Young players are all creeds and cultures these days, a few white boys giving out some grief on a bus with 4 adults in it too? The club should be embracing the cultures of south Cardiff on its doorstep but it seems like it rarely does……

When my son was 9 a few kids in his class kept telling him to go and wash his black off. This was a pretty good school which had a decent ethnic mix of students.

As it transpired, you will NOT be surprised, the kids involved were just picking up this kind of stuff from their parents. Whom, let me say, I had words with.

The school dealt with it really well.

The point is that sometimes, even in an environment which has all creeds and colours, you will get some racist little shits who are really just invoking the prejudices of their parents. I imagine some of the kids at the City academy will be the same.... coming from some home environments that normalise this kind of racist behaviour.

The issue here is HOW the club did or didn't react to the situation.

If as claimed, the staff ignored the racist abuse and forced the lad to clean up the bananas that were smeared into his stuff, then that is appalling and the club have been negligent in their duty of care to the children in the academy.

Of course what the club should have done:

1) called in the parent of the victim and informed them of the incidents
2) with the parents the club should have informed the police
3) the police should have cautioned the children involved and informed their families
4) the club should have provided the victim with support from the youth counsellor and informed his parents
5) the club should have kicked out the perpetrators out of the academy
6) the police and or the club should have informed the perpetrators school of the incident and ensure that the school need to address issues of racism in their school programmes
7) held meetings with the rest of the academy kids and academy kids parents and informed them what had happened and that this behaviour is wholly unacceptable and that


Honestly though if the club DIDN'T do this then they need to strengthen their code of conduct and systems at the club. But also embedding a culture of non bullying. I do this for a living and would be happy to help them out, because it seems the club haven't got it right at all.

But let's wait and see what the investigation finds.

[dembethewarrior]

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****ing hell this club is becoming dodgy…

First their reaction to My City, My Shirt, then this! And to a kid as well!

You've read what you want to read out of all that txt haven't you.

[The Bloop]

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The most shocking aspect for me is the (alleged) immediate response from the staff at the time. Asking the kids to clean up the mess, when the thing they needed most was backing and support, must have been awful for them.

[Hilts]

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Clubs response.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-issue-statement-fa-21115990

[jon1959]

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Clubs response.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...nt-fa-21115990

Strange statement as printed by WOL. There is a rogue sentence in there about compensation that doesn't fit with what is before and after and isn't properly explained. The rest of it is fine and deals solely with the incident, the allegations and the investigation.

The implication from various news reports is that the guardian of one of the victims raised this again (in January this year leading to the club statement in March?) and added new allegations about the original response of the club when the boy's registration with another club was blocked by the need to pay Cardiff compensation. The club seem to have revisited the incident and started a new investigation earlier in the year and are cooperating with the FA investigation - but in the middle of that have left the suggestion hanging that this has re-emerged because the guardian wanted to put pressure on the club to agree a no compensation move for the boy to another club. Even if that is what the club thinks, it doesn't belong in this statement (at least not without a full explanation of the reason for it).

I don't know whether the club responded appropriately or not to the original incident - but there have clearly been problems with the culture around the academy in the recent past and even if they have learned from that and transformed processes and culture (?) the reputational damage is bad news. Mud sticks.