food prices to rise

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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This is bound to happen and should happen. Makes total sense.

The EU would become more appealing as a result, of course.......

[JamesWales]

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Out of curiosity, who is paying for and is being affected by these 'baby steps'?

Well wages are up and unemployment is down, so it ain't the workers.

But as explained here, in May and June, total exports to the EU were up anyway on pre-brexit levels.

"Exports of goods to the EU, excluding precious metals, were above pre-EU exit levels in May and June 2021; rising £1.2 billion (9.1%) to £14.1 billion in May 2021, followed by a further £0.2 billion (1.2%) to £14.3 billion in June 2021."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/natio...trade/june2021

[JamesWales]

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Putting Brexit aside, I can't help thinking that environmental concerns may eventually result in governments around the world levying higher tariffs/tariffs/fuel costs on goods coming from far off destinations.

Yes, from an environmental perspective I think firms/countries will and should look to simplify the supply chain somewhat.

A lot was always made of how many EU lorries come daily to service UK car manufacturers, all travelling vast quantities across europe in both directions. Is that really sustainable? Is that really the best way to do business, to treat Warsaw as if its the same as Walsall?

[Citizen's Nephew]

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The EU would become more appealing as a result, of course.......

Damn! I walked into that one!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Well wages are up and unemployment is down, so it ain't the workers.

Fantastic. I'll just bag myself a well paid job seeing as there are so many out there.

[Swiss Peter]

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Well wages are up and unemployment is down, so it ain't the workers.

But as explained here, in May and June, total exports to the EU were up anyway on pre-brexit levels.

"Exports of goods to the EU, excluding precious metals, were above pre-EU exit levels in May and June 2021; rising £1.2 billion (9.1%) to £14.1 billion in May 2021, followed by a further £0.2 billion (1.2%) to £14.3 billion in June 2021."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/natio...trade/june2021

The problem - as I believe you yourself have acknowledged - is that data at this level is not conclusive, we really need to wait and see what the balance of Brexit impacts looks like.

However, as someone earlier in the thread says, whatever all these links imply (and we will probably all interpret them to suit our own side of the argument) there are people experiencing real life every day issues that result directly from Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58432347

David Josephs, owner of All Greens Wholesale, a fruit and vegetable importer and wholesaler in London, said Brexit had been the biggest cause of additional costs for his business.

"We have an operation out of Milan, we ship twice a week, and just those two shipments a week coming out of Milan, the paperwork, purely the paperwork, is costing us an additional €52,000 (£44,650) a year," he told the BBC.

Maybe there are real life stories (not inconclusive links with inconclusive statistics) which show the real every day positive impacts of Brexit. I'd be interested to see them. Do you have any to share?

[ninian opinian]

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Now National Insurance up. Why???? Where is the money from the side of the bus, where’s all that gone???

[Rjk]

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Now National Insurance up. Why???? Where is the money from the side of the bus, where’s all that gone???

conveniently that doesn't impact most of the over 65s who are largely tory

[dembethewarrior]

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Anybody else absolutely desperate by now to know what JamesWales does for a living? Seems very reluctant to share, I'm going with traffic warden or pimp

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