DML, anybody, give me something

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: DML, anybody, give me something

What year was it? Got to be 25/30 years ago so give me a break shirely?:hehe: besides I can’t recall ever seeing us win on nyd, it’s not the best morning to get up and go to football is it?

January 1st, 1992.

I went to plenty of away games on New Year's Day down the years. Indeed, the year before the Maidstone game I went all the way up to Darlington to see City get stuffed 4-1.

The reverse of that Maidstone game would be January 1st, 2000, when City battered Exeter 6-1 at Ninian Park. That was Hammam's first season at the club, when Earnie scored shedloads of goals, but oddly he didn't score in that one.

[Hilts]

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He won’t be wrong, because it’s not just about the result. The style of play is not conducive to an enjoyable watch.

No he will be wrong. Hes making references to the Titanic.

If thats his reference hes looking at us heading into L1.

Mid table safety bringing through young players will be a relatively successful season.

[Cardiff Ultra]

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It was New Year's Day, City lost 5-0 and the opposition was Maidstone United.

2/5, must try harder.

:hehe:

I'm sure I saw us lose 5-1 at home to Preston on boxing day, one of the Jorn Schwinkendorf games

[The Lone Gunman]

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I'm sure I saw us lose 5-1 at home to Preston on boxing day, one of the Jorn Schwinkendorf games

Close. That was January 3rd, 2000. It was 0-4, Kurt Nogan scored one of their goals.

I was wrong in the previous post - the 6-1 win over Exeter was 01/01/2001, not 01/01/2000.

[blue lewj]

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So if we stay up comfortably it will be time to admit your wrong.

It tells a story when a fan of a team that was in the Premier League in 2018/19 sees staying in the league below playing $hite football as success.

No, survival in this league will not be success in my opinion. Especially not while playing arguably the worst brand of football in this league. The fact you have even considered survival as some degree of success shows how far we have regressed.

We are not winning with direct football at the moment, we are not entertaining. Our squad is getting weaker, we are making very odd decisions and loaning out anybody with flair. We are playing kids out of necessity and some simply aren't up to it.

Is it a direct demand from those above managerial level to play kids? It wouldn't surprise me and would be another sign that the people running our club simply don't get football. You can't just make a decision to play kids and start playing them and hope they get up to that level. If it was that easy every club would be doing it. You get an academy in place that produces players that kick the door down because they are such bright prospects that it makes it impossible not to pick them. We're a world away from that now.

Mick would have a job on here if he had funds to buy the players he wants. Doing it on a shoestring is not going to happen. He is very direct and if he let's the players whose contracts run out at the end of the season go then I can only see him bringing in players that fit that system sadly.

If they want to see less people through the turnstiles and turn the casual fans away from the club then they are going the right way about it.

[Hilts]

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It tells a story when a fan of a team that was in the Premier League in 2018/19 sees staying in the league below playing $hite football as success.

No, survival in this league will not be success in my opinion. Especially not while playing arguably the worst brand of football in this league. The fact you have even considered survival as some degree of success shows how far we have regressed.

We are not winning with direct football at the moment, we are not entertaining. Our squad is getting weaker, we are making very odd decisions and loaning out anybody with flair. We are playing kids out of necessity and some simply aren't up to it.

Is it a direct demand from those above managerial level to play kids? It wouldn't surprise me and would be another sign that the people running our club simply don't get football. You can't just make a decision to play kids and start playing them and hope they get up to that level. If it was that easy every club would be doing it. You get an academy in place that produces players that kick the door down because they are such bright prospects that it makes it impossible not to pick them. We're a world away from that now.

Mick would have a job on here if he had funds to buy the players he wants. Doing it on a shoestring is not going to happen. He is very direct and if he let's the players whose contracts run out at the end of the season go then I can only see him bringing in players that fit that system sadly.

If they want to see less people through the turnstiles and turn the casual fans away from the club then they are going the right way about it.

Your backtracking. Those not agreeing with youve accused of going for a swim when the Titanic sinks. So are we getting relegated or not.?

Id say if we finish mid table with Bagan Colwill Bowen Harris maybe even Kieran Evans and Isaak Davies then its fair to say most will have proved they are up to this level. I dont think it will be because the likes of Flint Vaulks and co have carried them.

We are skint. No parachute payments .Its survival mode at the moment.

I agree the football is dire. I didnt want Mick McCarthy but thats where we are. Im pretty certain he can keep us out of a relegation fight. Im happy to play to our strengths but the aimless hoofing it and head tennis needs to be cut out.

[goats]

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Close. That was January 3rd, 2000. It was 0-4, Kurt Nogan scored one of their goals.

I was wrong in the previous post - the 6-1 win over Exeter was 01/01/2001, not 01/01/2000.

I was at that Preston game too…no goals Nogan the nob of llanederyn managed to score even

[goats]

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Close. That was January 3rd, 2000. It was 0-4, Kurt Nogan scored one of their goals.

I was wrong in the previous post - the 6-1 win over Exeter was 01/01/2001, not 01/01/2000.

Is that win over Exeter the only ever win on nyd? Typically I was 1000’s of miles away in Sumatra that NYD

[The Lone Gunman]

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Is that win over Exeter the only ever win on nyd? Typically I was 1000’s of miles away in Sumatra that NYD

I went back as far as 1990:

01/01/1994 - Cardiff 3 Reading 0
01/01/2001 - Cardiff 6 Exeter 1
01/01/2005 - Derby 0 Cardiff 1
01/01/2008 - Cardiff 1 Plymouth 0
01/01/2013 - Birmingham 0 Cardiff Redbirds 1

There were lots of years when City didn't play on New Year's Day. Some thumping defeats on that date too though.

[blue lewj]

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Your backtracking. Those not agreeing with youve accused of going for a swim when the Titanic sinks. So are we getting relegated or not.?

Id say if we finish mid table with Bagan Colwill Bowen Harris maybe even Kieran Evans and Isaak Davies then its fair to say most will have proved they are up to this level. I dont think it will be because the likes of Flint Vaulks and co have carried them.

We are skint. No parachute payments .Its survival mode at the moment.

I agree the football is dire. I didnt want Mick McCarthy but thats where we are. Im pretty certain he can keep us out of a relegation fight. Im happy to play to our strengths but the aimless hoofing it and head tennis needs to be cut out.

Nobody is backtracking. If anything it is the board and Mick sympathisers that are backtracking. Avoiding relegation being a success? Really?
As for no parachute payments, virtually the same as the rest of the league then. If we're being honest we've wasted a lot of the money we made from the PL seasons and the parachute payments. All under the watchful eyes of our transfer committee.

I don't think we're going to get relegated though.
Is it a possibility? It wouldn't surprise me if we were dragged into trouble if we don't improve and quickly.

You are happy to play to our strengths but want to stop the hoofing and head tennis? Some might argue that is our style and lumping or throwing the ball in the general direction of our giants is our one and only plan.

I have looked at virtually every game this season and it has been a simple case of can the other team cope with our direct style? If they can then the other team usually get the better of us or take something from the game. Sadly for us more and more teams are working us out too. Not hard when we play one way and never move from that.

[Hilts]

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Nobody is backtracking. If anything it is the board and Mick sympathisers that are backtracking. Avoiding relegation being a success? Really?
As for no parachute payments, virtually the same as the rest of the league then. If we're being honest we've wasted a lot of the money we made from the PL seasons and the parachute payments. All under the watchful eyes of our transfer committee.

I don't think we're going to get relegated though.
Is it a possibility? It wouldn't surprise me if we were dragged into trouble if we don't improve and quickly.

You are happy to play to our strengths but want to stop the hoofing and head tennis? Some might argue that is our style and lumping or throwing the ball in the general direction of our giants is our one and only plan.

I have looked at virtually every game this season and it has been a simple case of can the other team cope with our direct style? If they can then the other team usually get the better of us or take something from the game. Sadly for us more and more teams are working us out too. Not hard when we play one way and never move from that.

Ok so we arent sinking like the titanic.

Now who are the young players who are " simply not up to it"

Harris and Colwill both deemed good enough to have been made full internationals?

Bagan who had the choice of Ireland or Scotland.?

Bowen or Evans. ? No idea if they are good enough myself but I havent seen enough to form any sort of opinion.

[dembethewarrior]

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I'm not sure how being internationals makes anyone good enough or having the choice of countries..

[Hilts]

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I'm not sure how being internationals makes anyone good enough or having the choice of countries..

No but the coaches there clearly rate them. I also think those 3 will have decent careers at Championship level at least.

I may be wrong but weve wanted young players given an opportunity for years. Weve been in financial shit for the way weve dished out large amounts and big contracts for players.

Now things are tough and we have youngsters who have even managed to impress international coaches being deemed as simply not good enough.

[dembethewarrior]

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No but the coaches there clearly rate them. I also think those 3 will have decent careers at Championship level at least.

I may be wrong but weve wanted young players given an opportunity for years. Weve been in financial shit for the way weve dished out large amounts and big contracts for players.

Now things are tough and we have youngsters who have even managed to impress international coaches being deemed as simply not good enough.

I think they all have a decent chance, I just didn't see how them being internationals mattered that's all.

[Hilts]

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I think they all have a decent chance, I just didn't see how them being internationals mattered that's all.

Well to be fair I wouldnt want Joe Morrell or that centre back Lawrence so its a fair point.