FT: CZECH REPUBLIC 2 - 2 WALES. Match thread

[the other bob wilson]

Re: CZECH REPUBLIC v WALES. Match thread

Agreed. What happened?

Virtually no pre season happened, Covid happened, twice, and a move to the Premier League didn’t happen.

As I say, build em up to knock em down.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Re: CZECH REPUBLIC v WALES. Match thread

Virtually no pre season happened, Covid happened, twice, and a move to the Premier League didn’t happen.

As I say, build em up to knock em down.

If Harry Kane can be knocked off his stride then so can Moore.

[BLUETIT]

Re: CZECH REPUBLIC v WALES. Match thread

What was promising about that performance, was the fact, none of us mentioned Bale.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: FT: CZECH REPUBLIC 2 - 2 WALES. Match thread

It’s been too long, but, finally a good game of football for a Cardiff/Wales fan to watch!

Positive Page and his team don't get the reward they deserved after Ward howler.

http://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

[goats]

Re: FT: CZECH REPUBLIC 2 - 2 WALES. Match thread

Rambo was outstanding, always a threat

though must be fair, the whole team put a shift in and looked like they wanted to win

Looked like he was busting a gut after a missing so many games, shame we can’t get him and bale playing in the same team

[Maurice Swan]

Re: FT: CZECH REPUBLIC 2 - 2 WALES. Match thread

Looked like he was busting a gut after a missing so many games, shame we can’t get him and bale playing in the same team

Ramsey was outstanding - but did anyone else think KM looked knackered from the start>?...and too easy going down, throwing himself forward with exaggeration.

[MacAdder]

Re: FT: CZECH REPUBLIC 2 - 2 WALES. Match thread

It’s been too long, but, finally a good game of football for a Cardiff/Wales fan to watch!

Positive Page and his team don't get the reward they deserved after Ward howler.

http://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

Good precis that Bob and pretty much how I saw the game.

Elaborating on the KM bit, I think Keiffer, the poor touch in front of goal and the smothered shot by the keeper apart, had a good game in my opinion, especially since he has not played too many games since his much hyped 20-goal season and some of the comments on here about him being washed up, if tongue in cheek, pretty OTT.

Page must take credit for his change of approach but you have to have the personnel to make a difference and Keiffer was a breath of fresh air playing as the target man and showed a lot of character in the second half against a pretty physical defence along with a homer of a ref.

Dan James, who on the whole was very good and superb finish for our equaliser, must also take a bit of blame for Moore's one on one as it was not only overhit but he could have played it earlier for Keiffer to make his own mind up how to finish it.

The only thing Page may have got wrong was the selection of Morrell again ahead of Wilson but it would be harsh to criticise too many to be fair, apart from Ward's "Enkelmann moment".

How much of an influence was Aaron Ramsey on the overall performance though, MOTM by some distance IMHO.

[NYCBlue]

Re: CZECH REPUBLIC v WALES. Match thread

Virtually no pre season happened, Covid happened, twice, and a move to the Premier League didn’t happen.

As I say, build em up to knock em down.

I have to take issue with this statement. When he was good everyone said he was good, now he's not doing so well people wonder why.

Maybe it was Keiffer that built himself up. He's been good, but he's never an EPL player. He's a workhorse with good feet and good aerial ability. Can you really see him playing for Wolves?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: FT: CZECH REPUBLIC 2 - 2 WALES. Match thread

Good precis that Bob and pretty much how I saw the game.

Elaborating on the KM bit, I think Keiffer, the poor touch in front of goal and the smothered shot by the keeper apart, had a good game in my opinion, especially since he has not played too many games since his much hyped 20-goal season and some of the comments on here about him being washed up, if tongue in cheek, pretty OTT.

Page must take credit for his change of approach but you have to have the personnel to make a difference and Keiffer was a breath of fresh air playing as the target man and showed a lot of character in the second half against a pretty physical defence along with a homer of a ref.

Dan James, who on the whole was very good and superb finish for our equaliser, must also take a bit of blame for Moore's one on one as it was not only overhit but he could have played it earlier for Keiffer to make his own mind up how to finish it.

The only thing Page may have got wrong was the selection of Morrell again ahead of Wilson but it would be harsh to criticise too many to be fair, apart from Ward's "Enkelmann moment".

How much of an influence was Aaron Ramsey on the overall performance though, MOTM by some distance IMHO.

I watched the BBC highlights programme this morning and it made me more convinced that Keiffer had a pretty good game, better than he has been for City lately definitely. Would Wales have played as well without him in the side? I don’t think so.

A draw’s no good to us on Monday, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see Wilson start, but Page obviously likes Allen and Morrell there together in central midfield, so I think a switch to a back four with Mepham dropping out might be the way to get Wilson into the team.

Ramsey did very well, but I wonder what anyone watching from Juventus would have made of that run he made for his goal - that was a fit man’s run!

[the other bob wilson]

Re: CZECH REPUBLIC v WALES. Match thread

I have to take issue with this statement. When he was good everyone said he was good, now he's not doing so well people wonder why.

Maybe it was Keiffer that built himself up. He's been good, but he's never an EPL player. He's a workhorse with good feet and good aerial ability. Can you really see him playing for Wolves?

I don’t know, two years ago it would have been hard to imagine him as a successful Championship player, but he’s a late developer who could still have some more development in him yet, despite his age.

One thing I’m sure of is that he can play in other styles than we see used by City, in fact, I’d say you get more out of him ny playing more football than we do.

[NYCBlue]

Re: CZECH REPUBLIC v WALES. Match thread

I don’t know, two years ago it would have been hard to imagine him as a successful Championship player, but he’s a late developer who could still have some more development in him yet, despite his age.

One thing I’m sure of is that he can play in other styles than we see used by City, in fact, I’d say you get more out of him ny playing more football than we do.

You'll get no argument from me regarding that.