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  • #91
    Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

    It's mostly complete nonsense

    I have respect for aborigine worship of the land and American Indian logic and reasoning . And some of the Eastern religions have a fringe appeal .

    But Christianity, Islam , Judaism all cobblers

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    • #92
      Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

      Originally posted by Rjk View Post
      I think it should be possible for us as a society to achieve both shops being open on a Sunday and giving workers a better work life balance
      Totally agree! I think it selfish for some people to want only this "landscape of peace and tranquility" on a Sunday. Many people suffering from depression, particularly those living alone, are badly affected by the loneliness a Sunday can effect. For some people the hustle and bustle of shopping would be a "Godsend" (please excuse the pun). Anyway, is it really so heinous for people to want to shop for food in a supermarket after 4 pm on a Sunday?

      By the way if someone does want a Sunday off, what's stopping us giving a couple of quid to those poor people on the sole to work every Sunday as cover? Nature offers us many solutions if we are prepared to be broad-minded.

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      • #93
        Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

        Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
        Indeed, and the RCC and other man-made Religions have done their best, but true Christianity remains and it is growing rapidly when you look at the bigger picture worldwide. It will continue to do so, despite nations like ours doing their best to stamp it out.

        * As for the atheist, this is NOT a person of no faith, but an individual with more faith than any Christian (see below):-
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        Got a source for Christianity “growing rapidly” worldwide?

        It’s in decline in Europe and North and South America and the largest growing populations, India and China, have very few Christians to begin with.

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        • #94
          Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

          Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
          Got a source for Christianity “growing rapidly” worldwide?

          It’s in decline in Europe and North and South America and the largest growing populations, India and China, have very few Christians to begin with.
          "Atheists have more faith than Christians"...no Strobel you nerd, Atheists are not so intellectually challenged and are open to there being a higher truth set than we can conceive of given our narrow frame of reference. Therefore there may always be the possibility of "something emerging from nothing'. Otherwise if that were not true people like Strobel are insinuating that God must have had a prior causal agency! In which case was there Proto God, and who came before him or her ad nausium?

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          • #95
            Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

            Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
            Got a source for Christianity “growing rapidly” worldwide?

            It’s in decline in Europe and North and South America and the largest growing populations, India and China, have very few Christians to begin with.
            Growing rapidly in Africa. It’s been in long decline in the UK.

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            • #96
              Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

              Originally posted by Baloo View Post
              Growing rapidly in Africa. It’s been in long decline in the UK.
              Before white missionaries , many of them very dodgy , spread the word much of Africa was doing fine

              As was South America before the Spanish turned up

              Bloody nonsense all of it

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              • #97
                Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

                Originally posted by Baloo View Post
                Growing rapidly in Africa. It’s been in long decline in the UK.
                Islam is growing quickest of the 2 major religions in Africa. I’m still not sure if the increasing numbers in Africa are enough to account for the decreases seen in Europe and N/S America.

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                • #98
                  Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

                  Ti's true

                  The horn of Africa such as Somalia, Sudan etc used to be the centre of Islam in Africa but the faith has spread

                  I have no time for any organised religion

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                  • #99
                    Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

                    Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
                    Islam is growing quickest of the 2 major religions in Africa. I’m still not sure if the increasing numbers in Africa are enough to account for the decreases seen in Europe and N/S America.
                    The british press wouldn't acknowledge this, however an average of 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity each and every day, and that's not Christian religion, that's Christianity.

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                    • Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

                      Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                      The british press wouldn't acknowledge this
                      Probably because they'd want some proof of such a random statistic and how that was measured.

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                      • Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

                        Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                        The british press wouldn't acknowledge this, however an average of 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity each and every day, and that's not Christian religion, that's Christianity.
                        Why would the British press acknowledge this? The vast majority of people don’t care about religion and their growth rates in different countries. We’re no longer a majority Christian or Religious country.
                        If your stat is true or not it doesn’t change that Islam is the quickest growing in other parts of the world.

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                        • Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

                          Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
                          Why would the British press acknowledge this? The vast majority of people don’t care about religion and their growth rates in different countries. We’re no longer a majority Christian or Religious country.
                          If your stat is true or not it doesn’t change that Islam is the quickest growing in other parts of the world.
                          Because we have moved from being a Christian country to an anti-Christian country during the last 50 years.
                          As for your stats, few are converting TO Islam as a choice, many are being born at high rates into Muslim families.

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                          • Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

                            Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                            Because we have moved from being a Christian country to an anti-Christian country during the last 50 years.
                            As for your stats, few are converting TO Islam as a choice, many are being born at high rates into Muslim families.
                            It's not that we moved to an anti Christian country , it's that people these days think it's all bollocks

                            Islam is a more encompassing , cultural religion but that's bollocks as well

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                            • Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

                              Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                              Because we have moved from being a Christian country to an anti-Christian country during the last 50 years.
                              As for your stats, few are converting TO Islam as a choice, many are being born at high rates into Muslim families.
                              So why would the British press report on it?
                              Again, that doesn’t change anything I said.

                              I’m not quite sure what your point is? Would we be better off as a Christian country in your mind?

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                              • Re: Latest British Social Survey finds 52% of the Country are non Religious

                                Interesting topic - I do like the religious ones.

                                I don't think we have become anti-Christian. I think Christianity has changed in the sense of it has become more polarised.

                                When I grew up and went to church - politics was never discussed, I never heard any anti-gay stuff and the church was welcoming to refugees and other minorities. In a crisis the church used to be the first on the front line... handing out food, helping out, providing support.

                                To be clear.... some churches still do that, quietly getting on with things. My brother belongs to a church in Cardiff that get on with those things.

                                However, there was a change in the 1990's and 2000's where I saw a lot of churches start to embrace politics... anti-gay, anti-immigration etc. To the point where it become their ONLY issues.

                                That sadly remains today... I'll give you an example, I was accidentally left on a CC email where churches are encouraged to write to, lobby and demonstrate AGAINST the Welsh Assemblies plan to criminalize 'conversion therapy'. The practices of forcing children and adults into a dangerous programme to make them 'Un-Gay'. A practice that should be banned and is very dangerous.

                                When I looked at the website link in the email it was full of bile nonsense without an ounce of compassion or humanity.

                                When I looked at the email list.... old middle class angry daily mail reading white males with nothing better to do. **** em.

                                No wonder people are sunning the church. I have... despite being a believer. Jesus was also probably first out of the door.

                                So I absolutely do not want the country to be a Christian country if it is anything like these ****ing morons.

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