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The best part of what Jordan says and sums it up for me was where he said " You've got to look and say 'what's the common denominator?' The ownership."
It is. We had some degree of success for a short while under Warnock because he could manage/manipulate to a degree those above him. Even then it failed.
The problem is the owner and who he has running the show.
I can even see that Mick McCarthy would be doing a lot better if they backed him more than they are. The squad they've left him with is woefully lacking in quality.
Do I think Mick wants to play as many kids? No.
Do I think he would want to loan out Murphy, Wintle and the like without having any replacement? No.
Why would he actively put himself in a weaker position?
Those type of decisions come from above. They need a long hard look at how they do things because it is going to end in a monumental disaster at this football club. They won't though.
Yeah Murphy was a popular player with Mick and would be the 1st name on the team sheet.
Wintle who he signed was tearing it up pre season and was all set to start.
Its a disgrace Mick wasnt given a bigger budget. He could have signed a few more centre backs and put them in midfield.
Nobody said that did they.
I am asking who is making the decisions here.
Did he even have a big say in signing Wintle?
Was he given a choice of keeping the minimum amount of players at the club to save money?
I can guess but know as much as you when all is said and done despite how much posters like you think they know.
I'm with Jordan on this one. The board haven't got a clue. They now haven't got a clue while trying things on the cheap.
As you say no one knows the answers to these questions and we are all making educated (or uneducated) guesses.
My guess is that Mick was involved in the Murphy decision, and may even have been the instigator of the Wintle loan.
But I am sure Mick wanted to sign Johnny Williams and Marley Watkins, but was told 'no'.
Those in charge were expecting a massive windfall with the sale of Moore, despite all the rumours of Premier League clubs interested and willing to splash £10m+ on him, it was all bollocks. Our naive owners actually believed the transfer window hyperbole and were counting the Kieffer cash already when there was no Kieffer cash at all, in reality not a scrap of truth in any serious ‘big club with loads of money’ interest.
They had it in their heads that we’ve got James Collins for next to nothing and the Kieffer Moore money in Tan’s pocket, ‘Aren’t we shrewd, what a deal’. They were stitched up like us daft fans are during the transfer window frenzy, while the proper professional, knowledgeable football hierarchy know exactly what’s going on.
I am genuinely shocked that McCarthy is still manager.
I hope I am wrong but it is almost impossible to see how he can pull the team together to beat Reading on Saturday. What is the point in waiting for the international break?
I still can't get my head around 5cbs to keep a clean sheet and still not changing things until 60 something minutes when 2 down.
He's not been a bad manager in his career but he has lost the plot here.
No doubt he has pressures to grind results on a much reduced budget but there are teams in this league with less than us that manage to compete and don't shit the bed when the likes of Bournemouth and West Brom come down.
Club at the moment probably can't afford the pay off unfortunately for all involved.
Quite a lot if you listen to what he says.
I used to think he was a pompous prick but he is one of the more open, honest and knowledgeable ex owners in the mainstream who isn't scared to say what he feels is right even if it puts noses out of joint.
His conversation with Derek Chisora was an eye opener.
[QUOTE=NYCBlue;5229956]1. Cherry picking
2. Irrelevant anyway.
Must do better mehmet /QUOTE]