That won't fly. He's saying he (Ibbotson) "was the operator from my perspective" - I don't believe this was his perspective for a minute and in actuality - what Henderson is describing is that Ibbotson was the *pilot* to whom Henderson supplied McKay with in his role of operator. Very convenient Ibbotson is not here to coobberate that the expenses were only incurred by Henderson because he had forgotten his credit card! The evidence is damning in terms of invalidating his defence - he was the man operating the hire of the pilot and plane for McKay, and he knew D.I. wasn't adequately qualified - the owner had told him not to use him!