Mehmet Dalman's extraordinary meeting with City supporter representatives yesterday.

[stan butler]

Re: Mehmet Dalman's extraordinary meeting with City supporter representatives yesterday.

Tan playing a very expensive game of Football Manager through his yes men.

It seems he has got bored of this particular game though.

If he thinks that bringing kids in for quality professionals is the way to go then he has learnt nothing from this season at all. Would he admit he was wrong with anything though?

We are cutting cloth due to debts and ffp though.
Debts run up by Tan himself so i'm not sticking up for him it's just the reason why we are cutting back in my opinion..

[blue lewj]

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We are cutting cloth due to debts and ffp though.
Debts run up by Tan himself so i'm not sticking up for him it's just the reason why we are cutting back in my opinion..

I think we can all see what is happening.

It seems irrelevant who we bring in as manager as Tan, according to Dalman, oversees every football decision so they can't do their job anyway.
That is bad enough without having to bring kids in from the under 23 level and make them competent Championship players overnight.

[William Treseder]

Re: Mehmet Dalman's extraordinary meeting with City supporter representatives yesterday.

Could be worse. We could be Man U fans 😂

[Dorcus]

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I think we can all see what is happening.

It seems irrelevant who we bring in as manager as Tan, according to Dalman, oversees every football decision so they can't do their job anyway.
That is bad enough without having to bring kids in from the under 23 level and make them competent Championship players overnight.

The words "nail and head" spring to mind. Someone mentioned "meddling'; it's far worse than that, it's dictatorship.

[gabbsthenewt]

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I think we can all see what is happening.

It seems irrelevant who we bring in as manager as Tan, according to Dalman, oversees every football decision so they can't do their job anyway.
That is bad enough without having to bring kids in from the under 23 level and make them competent Championship players overnight.

Does that mean the 5 CBs were Tan's idea?

[blue lewj]

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The words "nail and head" spring to mind. Someone mentioned "meddling'; it's far worse than that, it's dictatorship.

Meddling for me is asking questions from time to time and trying to influence the manager.

Telephone calls after most games and Tan deciding our playing style and not the manager. That is ridiculous.
It seems we haven't moved on from the days of "why isn't David Marshall scoring more goals?"

[blue lewj]

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Does that mean the 5 CBs were Tan's idea?

If he has the final say on things as hands on as playing style then you'd say it was Tan.

He would at least have made sure it didn't happen again.

It all makes sense now. Man with very little football knowledge tries to stop goals by plugging more centre backs in.
Like a bloke using sand bags before an impending flood.

[rich munn]

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:ayatollah:

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Thanks Bob for posting that. Astonishing! We really are in deep shite and rudderless.

I just wonder how many of the other 24 Championship clubs are in deep financial shite. Quite a few I should imagine.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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10 months ago we signed a 4th division striker for £1M who barely played and was sent out on loan. This was in the middle of the pandemic with no-one going to games. Whose idea was that? If it was Tan and he gets a say in footballing matters wouldn't he expect to see the lad playing? Would he be happy that player was sent out on loan?

Also, if Choo and Dalman had okayed Sala then would Tan's input have been needed?

Does Tan have any idea how teams play below first team level? Wouldn't he want them to play the long ball game too?

Dalman answers a question and three more spring up afterwards.

[Dorcus]

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I just wonder how many of the other 24 Championship clubs are in deep financial shite. Quite a few I should imagine.

Maybe so but equally rudderless and constrained by the whims of a dictator? Not conspicuously that many.

[Divine Wright]

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Last time I checked "overbearing" was a negative character adjective.

Also, last time I checked " a lack of knowledge and experience in the industry" was a bad thing for anyone wishing to work in said industry.

Shouldn't "fit and proper" assessments also consider how much knowledge any potential owner has of the industry and limitations be put on the owners involvement according to how much knowledge she or he has ? There is more than one way to run a club into the ground. Mismanagement of the coaching staff and team are potentially as dangerous as financial mismanagement.

People like VT should be made to employ someone who takes care of football matters.

This guy is a loon...... and for all the promises of leaving the club in a better position, I'm not seeing it, and we've had twelve or so years of this guy now.

[billy.ronson]

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Anyone know how much is owed to Tan now ? I appreciate that COVID has hit his business badly but wasn’t he going to clear the debt by now ?

[Father Dougal]

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Meddling for me is asking questions from time to time and trying to influence the manager.

Telephone calls after most games and Tan deciding our playing style and not the manager. That is ridiculous.
It seems we haven't moved on from the days of "why isn't David Marshall scoring more goals?"

Come on are people still talking about that comment? Malky and his men played the media far far better than tan at the time. I don't believe for a second tans beef with malky was genuinely that our goalkeeper wasn't scoring enough goals.

[Father Dougal]

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I think the big question is why have dalman and choo set tan like up like they did yesterday? What's in it for them? What's in it for tan? I'm struggling to see who gains from what they did yesterday?

Whether they meant it or not the only message taken away is dalman, choo and even the manager is irrelevant at the club and everything is down to Vincent tan. Style of play, picking the manager, signings, absolutely everything. To choose to announce this when the club is on the worst run it's in entire history (therefore to send any abuse towards tan) seems odd to me and I can't work out who is intended to gain from it?

My personal opinion is tan has long ago lost interest in Cardiff city and he doesn't actually care. He doesn't care what anyone says about him and I don't believe he is anywhere near as involved as people believe he is- or as dalman and choo want everyone to believe he is.