Sugar were a great band

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

https://youtu.be/lXFiycUbG3I

Great stabbing melodic riffing

[stan butler]

https://youtu.be/lXFiycUbG3I

Great stabbing melodic riffing

Stop spoiling the forum with shit music threads

[Kind of Blue]

https://youtu.be/lXFiycUbG3I

Great stabbing melodic riffing

I thought you hated indie?! 🤔 More a fan of the Huskers but Sugar definitely had their moments, especially ‘copper blue’.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I thought you hated indie?! 🤔 More a fan of the Huskers but Sugar definitely had their moments, especially ‘copper blue’.

Sugar and Husker du were alternative rock bands , heavy on the guitars

Pixies ......lumped in with the students but very aggressive guitar

Copper Blue is a great album

I thought Sugar had a better sound , Husker Du sound dated now I think

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

https://youtu.be/IomW6HqxbtM

Great solo on this

[Kind of Blue]

Sugar and Husker du were alternative rock bands , heavy on the guitars

Pixies ......lumped in with the students but very aggressive guitar

Copper Blue is a great album

I thought Sugar had a better sound , Husker Du sound dated now I think

Just pulling your leg pal. However if I were asked what sort of music Sugar were my immediate answer would be indie rock. Husker Du were more varied and the first few records are more buzzsaw hardcore punk than anything. Can appreciate your point about their sound though, they tended to be a little tinny and thin but otherwise I like 80s productions generally on records of that period.

Have seen Bob Mould perform a couple times and both have been enjoyable with plenty of songs by both chucked in.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Just pulling your leg pal. However if I were asked what sort of music Sugar were my immediate answer would be indie rock. Husker Du were more varied and the first few records are more buzzsaw hardcore punk than anything. Can appreciate your point about their sound though, they tended to be a little tinny and thin but otherwise I like 80s productions generally on records of that period.

Have seen Bob Mould perform a couple times and both have been enjoyable with plenty of songs by both chucked in.

Gill Norton I believe ?

Black Flag early stuff was tinny in the same way

[NYCBlue]

As it has now been established that the term "indie" only applies to bands that Sludge thinks it should, would he care to elaborate? I'd appreciate a general definition and some examples. Please don't mention students. They're not a monolith and they don't all like the same bands.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

As it has now been established that the term "indie" only applies to bands that Sludge thinks it should, would he care to elaborate? I'd appreciate a general definition and some examples. Please don't mention students. They're not a monolith and they don't all like the same bands.

Sugar are a guitar driven rock band , they are a rock band , stick em on 4AD , stick em on EMI , they are a rock band

The same goes for the pixies , buffalo tom , Jesus lizard , Butthole Surfers , big black , rollins band , throwing muses , shellac, dinosaur jnr , Melvins , rolling band

Everybody knows that indie is about floppy haired students

You can tell you are talking to an indie fan .....they read about rock bands like smashing pumpkins in the NME and go yeah great band man !

Next week they turn up in kerrang or rock sound etc and they don't like them because they don't like heavy metal

Indie bands are lightweight naff for students afraid of heavy riffs

It's got nothing to do with what label a bands on , it's to do with the sound

Have it

[life on mars]

Bob Mold of Sugar playing Globe very soon 23 Jan 2022.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Bob Mold of Sugar playing Globe very soon 23 Jan 2022.

Black sheets of rain is heavy going

[life on mars]

Black sheets of rain is heavy going

Yes indeed I've seen him on most of his tours since Husku , just a great entertainer he covers all aspects of his career , as long as he covers Hoover Dam I'm well set .

This us the set list In USA for the same tour :
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bob-m...-3b8d58d8.html

[The Hooded Claw]

I like some “Indie” music and I like some metal. I also like some hard rock and acts playing many other styles.
I guess that makes me confused or schizophrenic… 🤪

[life on mars]

I like some “Indie” music and I like some metal. I also like some hard rock and acts playing many other styles.
I guess that makes me confused or schizophrenic… 🤪

This should help as it covers what you've listed .


https://youtu.be/J1sYN0PuRs4

And this
https://youtu.be/utyjfINKbSM

[NYCBlue]

Sugar are a guitar driven rock band , they are a rock band , stick em on 4AD , stick em on EMI , they are a rock band

The same goes for the pixies , buffalo tom , Jesus lizard , Butthole Surfers , big black , rollins band , throwing muses , shellac, dinosaur jnr , Melvins , rolling band

Everybody knows that indie is about floppy haired students

You can tell you are talking to an indie fan .....they read about rock bands like smashing pumpkins in the NME and go yeah great band man !

Next week they turn up in kerrang or rock sound etc and they don't like them because they don't like heavy metal

Indie bands are lightweight naff for students afraid of heavy riffs

It's got nothing to do with what label a bands on , it's to do with the sound

Have it

Do Primal Scream fit into that category?

[NYCBlue]

What about Teenage Fanclub?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

What about Teenage Fanclub?

The fannies were indie imo

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Do Primal Scream fit into that category?

Indie

[NYCBlue]

Super Furry Animals?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Super Furry Animals?

Student indie type band , some nice sounds

But not a rock band like Sugar or Melvins or Big Black were

There is clearly a difference . Snow Patrol another indie type of band

[life on mars]

Student indie type band , some nice sounds

But not a rock band like Sugar or Melvins or Big Black were

There is clearly a difference . Snow Patrol another indie type of band

You are right same as Artic Monkeys type of band they jumped onto the Indie scene as it was a trendy name the band you list were real Indie pioneers as were those garage bands who had little financial support to make a difference most born from UK and USA punk

[Wales-Bales]

[life on mars]

I may have been there saw them many times so underrated