The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

[life on mars]

Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

Does anyone really listen to Bercow though ? ?

Tories see him as a bit of a snake, a Judas

Labour supporters only listen when he is sticking his boot in, but the rest of the time he is just a turn-coat tory, but still a tory

Is that Bercow I'm a Tory one day but not the next or I'm the impartial speaker or not ??

Book sales down ??

Its great seeing the lefties lap him up a raging Tory because of his Brexit stance in any other world they'd hate his like , hypocrisy at its best .

[chrisp_1927]

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I totally disagree . I wouldn't have believed the population would be so stupid to follow his favourite politicians time after time.
If you think there is a doubt that he is indeed a kingmaker show me an example.

I think the argument would be that he generally buys off both sides. If your interest is being close to power at all costs, it's a risky game to nail all your support to the 1 side. Much easier to grease the palms of both sides and then fall in behind the winner just before the final result.


Manipulating public opinion is hard to do aswell. While the tabloids do undoubtedly shape public opinion in lots of ways. Most of the time they're trying to identify what the public already think, then feed them more of the same, rather than going out to change opinions. Thick people don't like to be challenged 🤣.


As for the rather direct question, I'll turn that back. Could you show me definitive examples of him being kingmaker.

[Claude Blue]

Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

Is that Bercow I'm a Tory one day but not the next or I'm the impartial speaker or not ??

Book sales down ??

Its great seeing the lefties lap him up a raging Tory because of his Brexit stance in any other world they'd hate his like , hypocrisy at its best .

Is Bercow not allowed to change his political viewpoint? I thought you always argued against folk who treat voting akin to supporting a football team.

Are you confused or a hypocrite?

[life on mars]

Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

Is Bercow not allowed to change his political viewpoint? I thought you always argued against folk who treat voting akin to supporting a football team.

Are you confused or a hypocrite?

Realist , the man is a fraud .

If the Tories were pro European he'd be a Tory, and Labour wouldn't have been so supportive.

[Baloo]

Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

I see nobody’s actually disputed what he said so far.

Must be because we’re all decent people on here :xmasthumbup:

[Tuerto]

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Realist , the man is a fraud .

If the Tories were pro European he'd be a Tory, and Labour wouldn't have been so supportive.

Bercow is an opportunist, i don't like him, although i agree completely with what he has said. You're a strange one. You've said on here that you grew up with **** all, a victim of poverty, that life was difficult for you. Your words. Yet you support someone like Boris, who would put you straight back into that situation in a heartbeat.

[Claude Blue]

Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

[QUOTE=life on mars;5253356]Realist , the man is a fraud .

If the Tories were pro European he'd be a Tory, and Labour wouldn't have been so supportive.[

Bercows political views have clearly changed, as have the party he once belonged to. He was once a member of the hard right Monday Club of Tory MP's.

Clearly in your world someone whose views change and no longer ally with the party you once belonged to makes you a fraud.

Doesn't that charge therefore equally apply to you?

Or are only you allowed to change your political view?

[Hilts]

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Getting desperate throw in lefty etc when you dare to criticise the bufoon and co. 😂

[nugent]

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Bercow is an opportunist, i don't like him, although i agree completely with what he has said. You're a strange one. You've said on here that you grew up with **** all, a victim of poverty, that life was difficult for you. Your words. Yet you support someone like Boris, who would put you straight back into that situation in a heartbeat.

Yeah right o.
Cos that's what a tory politician sets out to do.
OK you believe that son.
Dear God mun

[delmbox]

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Yeah right o.
Cos that's what a tory politician sets out to do.
OK you believe that son.
Dear God mun

I think it's less that a Tory politician sets out to do that, more that they has absolutely no interest in avoiding that seeing that happen. The fact that you can't see that explains a lot.

[Croesy Blue]

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Yeah right o.
Cos that's what a tory politician sets out to do.
OK you believe that son.
Dear God mun

Hiya mate you tried to make a point about minimum wage then went missing after I replied. Why is that?

[nugent]

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Hiya mate you tried to make a point about minimum wage then went missing after I replied. Why is that?

Your point was nonsense.
So I just left it there. Didn't want to get drawn into anything t h

[the other bob wilson]

Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

Is that Bercow I'm a Tory one day but not the next or I'm the impartial speaker or not ??

Book sales down ??

Its great seeing the lefties lap him up a raging Tory because of his Brexit stance in any other world they'd hate his like , hypocrisy at its best .

Complete and utter drivel. I didn’t have a great deal of time for Bercow as Speaker because, by the end, he didn’t have the political neutrality that job demands and he became like one of those refs who think everyone has come along to watch them, but he’s described Johnson to a tee there. The fact of the matter is that the Conservative party under Johnson have alienated a group of people who could have given it a far more talented Cabinet than the current bunch of second raters, most of whom owe their place at the top table solely to their stance on Brexit.

You’re a strange one, you call Johnson a clown, yet constantly back his Government while using whataboyery to try and turn discussions that are critical of them into a Labour Party bashing session.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, people who back Johnson’s Government despite all of the lies, corruption, cock ups and anti democratic practices like making protesting illegal really need to look at themselves and think about what they’re doing because this current version is not the Conservative Party most of them have backed through their lives as voters.

I hated Thatcher, but she would never have taken the Toriesin the direction Johnson has because, say what you like about her, she wasn’t in politics solely for self gain like he is and neither were the likes of Heath, Major and May.

Those who back Johnson’s version of the Conservative Party come what may because of the name Conservative have lost the right to use that old line about places where people would vote for a donkey if it was wearing a red rosette because they’re doing the same thing in backing someone who so clearly out of his depth in the top job.

[Elwood Blues]

Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

Complete and utter drivel. I didn’t have a great deal of time for Bercow as Speaker because, by the end, he didn’t have the political neutrality that job demands and he became like one of those refs who think everyone has come along to watch them, but he’s described Johnson to a tee there. The fact of the matter is that the Conservative party under Johnson have alienated a group of people who could have given it a far more talented Cabinet than the current bunch of second raters, most of whom owe their place at the top table solely to their stance on Brexit.

You’re a strange one, you call Johnson a clown, yet constantly back his Government while using whataboyery to try and turn discussions that are critical of them into a Labour Party bashing session.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, people who back Johnson’s Government despite all of the lies, corruption, cock ups and anti democratic practices like making protesting illegal really need to look at themselves and think about what they’re doing because this current version is not the Conservative Party most of them have backed through their lives as voters.

I hated Thatcher, but she would never have taken the Toriesin the direction Johnson has because, say what you like about her, she wasn’t in politics solely for self gain like he is and neither were the likes of Heath, Major and May.

Those who back Johnson’s version of the Conservative Party come what may because of the name Conservative have lost the right to use that old line about places where people would vote for a donkey if it was wearing a red rosette because they’re doing the same thing in backing someone who so clearly out of his depth in the top job.

Boris Johnsons great asset has been his election winning ability.

But as I saw somewhere recently you campaign in poetry and govern in prose ( or something like that!) and unfortunately Boris Joihnson cannot manage the prose. General Election campaigns are every 5 years not every day and the bread and butter business of day to day government has proved beyond him.

HIs lack of attention to detail isone of the reasons for this, but he got round this in the past by seemingly having the abilityto pick people around him who could do the hard yards well without dropping the ball.

This ability seems to have deserted him and whilst his various advisors may or may not be working hard, they have developed an ability to either lose sight of or drop the ball which makes the England slip cordon look world class!

I onlly voted for the Tory Party in 2017 and 2019 because I detested Corbyn so much.

I am still unconvinced by Starmer and wouild not vote in an election if held tomorrow or the near future.

Unless he show miraculous powers of recovery I am unlikely to vote for any government headed by Johnston at all (ditto if Raab ( does he even rank as second rate???) or Pretti Patel my some mischance got voted in a s Tory leader)

My impression to use that hackneyed phrase is that Boris Johnston has "lost the dressing room" or at least a significant part of it and I would not be at all surprised to see a leadership election in the first half of 2022

[Hilts]

Re: The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

Boris Johnsons great asset has been his election winning ability.

But as I saw somewhere recently you campaign in poetry and govern in prose ( or something like that!) and unfortunately Boris Joihnson cannot manage the prose. General Election campaigns are every 5 years not every day and the bread and butter business of day to day government has proved beyond him.

HIs lack of attention to detail isone of the reasons for this, but he got round this in the past by seemingly having the abilityto pick people around him who could do the hard yards well without dropping the ball.

This ability seems to have deserted him and whilst his various advisors may or may not be working hard, they have developed an ability to either lose sight of or drop the ball which makes the England slip cordon look world class!

I onlly voted for the Tory Party in 2017 and 2019 because I detested Corbyn so much.

I am still unconvinced by Starmer and wouild not vote in an election if held tomorrow or the near future.

Unless he show miraculous powers of recovery I am unlikely to vote for any government headed by Johnston at all (ditto if Raab ( does he even rank as second rate???) or Pretti Patel my some mischance got voted in a s Tory leader)

My impression to use that hackneyed phrase is that Boris Johnston has "lost the dressing room" or at least a significant part of it and I would not be at all surprised to see a leadership election in the first half of 2022

Spoken like a true Tory.