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We need to play attractive football first and foremost. We blew two chances in the PL. Gates won't be a problem then. When we were playing Leeds and Villa in the championship back in '17 there were crowds of almost 30K. A hell of a lot of local and Cardiff supporters too. We've always agreed that the club doesn't do enough to attract diversity though. That's where we could increase support by thousands within 2 or 3 miles of the club. I don't know why we haven't got our act togetehr by now.
Show me where I said that.
You can keep what you are smoking.
It is well known on here you won't lose an argument, even sometimes when it os clear you are you are losing one, you turn into the shhouty man who shouts lounder and more frequently than everybody else so win by default...
As you were.
We in the Taunton Bluebirds Group (aka TBG) hold our meetings in a local phone box and without having to remove the defibrillator or paperbacks. My fellow car-sharer to City games takes the tap end.
Birmingham City is a weird one as well.
Second biggest city, but most of those who live in the area support Aston Villa.
There was a suggestion a few years ago that Aston Villa was the be rebranded as Aston Villa Birmingham. As they were the biggest club in Birmingham.
Well people will come to Cardiff to work and study and end up staying but I don't think that's got anything at all to do with the pride cardiffians have , or don't have , in their city
That's the same for most places
I prefer Cardiff to Bristol but lots of people go there and end up staying
For a city of its size Cardiff has lots to do but I don't get the feeling it's close to its citizens hearts in the same way Newcastle is
The football team , the rugby team , the poor live music scene , its almost as if people can't be arsed
Being from CF5 here's my take on it.
In Cardiff we have a City divided by sport football and rugby.
I'm obviously football and find as soon as you go over Canton bridge into town as a Cardiff City fan there are many places you are not welcome ridiculous in your own city.
Also I think many, not all, Cardiff blues/Rugby fans hate us so won't cross the divide and so it's easier to be a plastic Manu or Liverpool fan.
We've always had a decent support from Ely and some of the older heads I know say when we were really shit Cardiff was the predominant support for the club.
I understand the point you are making. It does seem that plenty of people who live in the city don't identify with it in the same way that a person from swansea might identify with their City. It could be down to Cardiff being a capital city, more pressure to dilute the actual culture of the city in order to dhow a more representation towards Wales, especially over the past 20 years or so, maybe since the birth of the senedd. Who knows.
These Boys are representing, Sludge
It can't be overestimated just how much our violent fan base had in alienating CCFC in the city though. It was massive. During the 80's the old Cardiff Rugby Club was well supported and was felt like a 'safe' place to go for anyone. You could only get international rugby tickets if you were a member of a club (in fact when I was a nipper most people who went to the rugby were members or played). We were a nightmare and disliked. This has been hard to shrug off but it's happening. I speak to cabbies who still think we kick the sh*t out of each other on a Saturday!